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To: Bainbridge
As the original scriptures were plainly not written in the language that we are using, the entire Bible is a translation. This is obvious.

Yes, it is.

The questions arise when there are different possibilities of emphasis, nuance, contextual meaning, among other thing.

Yes, again. Many of the more unlearned can't grasp this and really do think that whatever the English seems to mean must always be what it means.

I see you are not in that class, and apologize for thinking you were.

For Cronos to simply bat away the question regarding the meaning of Brothers and Sisters with " you don't get that it means cousin" is not much of a response.

Well, these conversations do go around and round. Simply stating his case may not be much of a response for someone who wants to argue the particular sense of a Hebrew, Greek or Aramaic word. But for most people, stuck in their own tongue, to be jarred into thinking differently may work.

You are plainly not interested in convincing others, as you are already on board what you believe to be the one true church and do not think you should try to make your points winsomely.

I call them like I see them. When people put forth specious arguments, I call them on it. You seem to be about the same, perhaps that is why we are now engaged.

The notion that one is historically illiterate not to concur with Bellocs premise that Islam and Protestantism are related " heresies" is more of you talking to yourself. That is an opinion, not a commonly held view.

It's all opinions here, isn't it? Certainly to claim that Islam has nothing to do with Christianity is historically illiterate. Again, I call 'em like I see 'em. And not every criticism I have of every Protestant is a criticism of you personally.

I am confused by your then citing the ,in my opinion, false religion of Islam to bolster your Marian beliefs.

I am confused as well. I merely pointed out that people who share a common culture and language family might have a better insight into what their words and concepts (like "brother") mean than we do. In no way was I using Islam to bolster any argument about Mary. Perhaps you can't seperate my arguments about language from those about religion.

You stated in your " disclosure" that you had succumbed to the lies of the Navigators.

I suppose you meant something when you wrote this. What that might have been remains a mystery. What are you talking about?

To lie is to intend to deceive this implies that they knew that what they told you was not so and did it anyway. Do you actually believe that? I do not believe that the serious Catholics here are lying. I believe that we both see the evidence of reality and Scripture and come away with different takes. Someone has to be wrong on the issues that are absolute. But to say they lied to you shows no charity, and will repel those trying to engage in discussion about points, both doctrinal and theological.

Whom did I accuse of lying? What are you talking about?

SD

865 posted on 02/17/2006 10:22:24 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
My most humble apologies. I conflated you with your co-religionist Mark O'malley. Same tone overall( just reread the posts : see his in 795.)
I will stop indulging myself in this as you do not consider me a worthy opponent, and I know when I am licked. Back to my tasks, Protestant work ethic , ya know!
872 posted on 02/17/2006 11:10:53 AM PST by Bainbridge
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