[SoothingDave]

The Bible only lists 3 regular people who made it to heaven already (Enoch, Elija, and Moses, and one maybe (one of the guys that was crucified alongside Jesus). The idea that people die and go straight to heaven is Biblically unsound and makes much of the New Testament and Christianity in generally moot.

I'm not sure how you think this makes those things "moot."

In any event, have you ever really thought about the concept of eternity? The idea of "going straight to Heaven" or "going only after the end of the world" are meaningless ideas when contemplated from eternity. Eternity is not living for a long, long time. It is living outside of time. All moments are equally present from eternity.

SD

[Uri’el-2012]

k04>The Bible only lists 3 regular people who made it to heaven already (Enoch, Elija, and Moses, and one maybe (one of the guys that was crucified alongside Jesus). The idea that people die and go straight to heaven is Biblically unsound and makes much of the New Testament and Christianity in generally moot.

SD>I'm not sure how you think this makes those things "moot."

In any event, have you ever really thought about the concept of eternity? The idea of "going straight to Heaven" or "going only after the end of the world" are meaningless ideas when contemplated from eternity. Eternity is not living for a long, long time. It is living outside of time. All moments are equally present from eternity.

SD

608 posted on 02/16/2006 9:55:10 AM MST by SoothingDave

I find myself agreeing with you, Dave.

From G-d's point of view as He is outside of our time and space,
having created our time and space,
all things happening in our timeline would seem to occur
at the the same "time" for the king of the universe.

This would permit free will for us in time and space
and G-d to pre-know our outcome.

b'shem Y'shua

[kerryusama04]

Please read over my banter with tenn2005. The whole NT points to a day of judgement where all the books will be opened and justice will be known to all.