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To: Invincibly Ignorant
###"Constantinian Christianity"###

I believe Constantinian Christianity came long after St Paul and St Peter got the Jews to change their ways.

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/13287b.htm

"Christ, while observing the Sabbath, set himself in word and act against this absurd rigorism which made man a slave of the day. He reproved the scribes and Pharisees for putting an intolerable burden on men's shoulders (Matthew 23:4), and proclaimed the principle that "the sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath" (Mark 2:27). He cured on the Sabbath, and defended His disciples for plucking ears of corn on that day. In His arguments with the Pharisees on this account He showed that the Sabbath is not broken in cases of necessity or by acts of charity (Matthew 12:3 sqq.; Mark 2:25 sqq.; Luke 6:3 sqq.; 14:5). St. Paul enumerates the Sabbath among the Jewish observances which are not obligatory on Christians (Colossians 2:16; Galatians 4:9-10; Romans 14:5).

The gentile converts held their religious meetings on Sunday (Acts 20:7; 1 Corinthians 16:2) and with the disappearance of the Jewish Christian churches this day was exclusively observed as the Lord's Day. (See SUNDAY.)"

http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/08537a.htm

Did not St Paul and St Peter have sort of a coming out about circumcision?
219 posted on 02/15/2006 12:22:46 PM PST by franky (Pray for the souls of the faithful departed.)
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To: franky
Did not St Paul and St Peter have sort of a coming out about circumcision?

So the NT writings say. I don't happen to find them inspired.

224 posted on 02/15/2006 12:26:42 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: franky; Invincibly Ignorant
He cured on the Sabbath, and defended His disciples for plucking ears of corn on that day

Where in scripture does it say you cannot help heal someone or feed yourself on the Sabbath?

St. Paul enumerates the Sabbath among the Jewish observances which are not obligatory on Christians (Colossians 2:16; Galatians 4:9-10; Romans 14:5).

Friend....you need to think like a Hebrew if you are going to read Paul's letters. The Colossians were Gentile Pagans prior to their conversion. They had no knowledge of these things before and Paul is instructing them in their observance! He is saying....pay no attention to criticism of these observances. Look at verse 8; of Colossians 2. He is talking about deceptive philosophy which depends on human tradition. Do you really thinks that God's Holy Days and Sabbaths are derived from "Human Traditions"?

Galatians 4:8 tells us that these folks formerly knew not God.....so the enslavement they were turning back to sure wasn't scriptural....it was Pagan!

Romans 14:5 is one of my favorites to refute. Paul is not talking about Sabbaths. He is talking about "Fast Days". Jesus himself mentioned it in Matthew 6:16. It is mentioned again in Luke 18:12. Fasting was very customary to Jews and some fasted more than others. Some fasted on particular days....others did not. If you notice in verse 1 of Romans 14 it says these are disputable opinions! Do you think Paul would be calling Sabbath observances disputable?

The 14th chapter of Romans is talking about vegetarianism and fasting....not Sabbath Day observances. Some folks in Rome did not want to eat meat as they thought it may have been sacrificed to idols in the meat market. See 1 Corinthians 8 for an explanation of this. Paul is saying "no big deal".

282 posted on 02/15/2006 4:13:21 PM PST by Diego1618
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