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You can say what you want about the canonization of the Bible, but the history is:

Catholics gathered the scripture.

Catholic bishops and priests discussed among themselves what was canon and what wasn't.

Catholic bishops and their people put the New Testament together after a fairly drawn out process that is well documented.

This is history. Whether you want to believe it or not is another story.

You take too much credit and, as usual, the prerogatives of God for your church, when you dismiss the role of God in forming and transmitting both the Devine nature of God-breathed Scripture and the canonization. History is quite clear - the deductions you make that your church was anything more than a tool in the Creator's hand is laughable.

You take too much credit and, as usual, the prerogatives of God for your church, when you dismiss the role of God in forming and transmitting both the Devine nature of God-breathed Scripture and the canonization. History is quite clear - the deductions you make that your church was anything more than a tool in the Creator's hand is laughable.

Where in the Bible does it say what the Canon is? How did you come to know what the Canon is? A Canon which matches that of the Catholic Church nminus 7 books? And if you didn't decide on your Canon personally, by whose authority was the Canon set>

"You take too much credit and, as usual, the prerogatives of God for your church, when you dismiss the role of God in forming and transmitting both the Devine nature of God-breathed Scripture and the canonization. History is quite clear - the deductions you make that your church was anything more than a tool in the Creator's hand is laughable."

This is not about taking credit, it is about historical fact. The Scriptures were written within the Catholic Church, they were preserved within the Catholic Church, they were canonized by the Catholic Church, and they were passed on through the Catholic Church. That is historical fact.

"you dismiss the role of God in forming and transmitting both the Devine nature of God-breathed Scripture and the canonization. "

Gscc, this is exactly the opposite of what we are saying. God utilized the Church, His Church to transmit the Scriptures.

"History is quite clear - the deductions you make that your church was anything more than a tool in the Creator's hand is laughable."

The Church is precisely a tool in the hands or the Creator, or more accurately, a servant of the Creator. But the Church is more than that, the Church is also the Bride of Christ, and Christ sacrificed himself for His Church. It seems to me that you are opposing God to His Church. That makes no sense.