[OLD REGGIE]

The Bible says Mary had sex with Joseph and the Bible says that Mary and Jesus brothers came to see him.

So what would lead you to believe that Mary was not the mother of those children.

I never said Mary was not the mother of other children. In fact, I personally believe she and Joseph had additional children.

What I said was neither you or the "Perpetual Virginity" advocates can prove your case from Scripture; you each take your beliefs from your interpretation of Scripture.

Scripture does not specifically say she was the mother of those children nor does it say the brothers and sisters of Jesus were not the offspring of Mary.

You each state your case from silence and I don't think it will have any bearing on the salvation of either one of you. But then, I am a Unitarian. What else would you expect of me? of

[Conservative til I die]

What I said was neither you or the "Perpetual Virginity" advocates can prove your case from Scripture; you each take your beliefs from your interpretation of Scripture.

Isn't this what every Christian does? That's why you need a final authority.

[Full Court]

You each state your case from silence and I don't think it will have any bearing on the salvation of either one of you.

The fact that Mary was with the brothers and sisters of Jesus makes more for the case that she was their mother.

We also have the fact that Scripture makes it clear that Mary and Joseph had sex. We also have clear Scripture saying that Jesus was Mary's firstborn.

There is NOTHING to indicate that she she sinned by withholding sex from Joseph or that she was not the mother or those children.