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To: Jaded; SoothingDave; Cronos; annalex; Conservative til I die

Excuse me NYER, but Jaded claimed I said something I did not, and I find that to be dishonest. So don't post moral platitudes to ME, when it was Jaded that made the false claim.


1,617 posted on 02/24/2006 1:58:40 PM PST by Full Court (Keepers at home, do you think it's optional?)
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To: Full Court; Jaded; SoothingDave; Cronos; annalex; Conservative til I die; OLD REGGIE; ...

You said

To: Cronos
Me:God the woman was created for the man, not the other way around.

You:Really -- isn't it what you want to read into it?

No, it's what God says.

1 Corinthians 11:9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man.

1,556 posted on 02/24/2006 9:16:13 AM CST by Full Court (Keepers at home, do you think it's optional?)
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I provide the surrounding verses.

To: Full Court
Since you posted your snippet to show how women are owned by men.... try the ENTIRE Pararaph. Perhaps the next one.

1 Corinthians 11
1Follow my example, as I follow the example of Christ.

Propriety in Worship
2I praise you for remembering me in everything and for holding to the teachings,[a] just as I passed them on to you.
3Now I want you to realize that the head of every man is Christ, and the head of the woman is man, and the head of Christ is God. 4Every man who prays or prophesies with his head covered dishonors his head. 5And every woman who prays or prophesies with her head uncovered dishonors her head—it is just as though her head were shaved. 6If a woman does not cover her head, she should have her hair cut off; and if it is a disgrace for a woman to have her hair cut or shaved off, she should cover her head. 7A man ought not to cover his head,[b] since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man. 8For man did not come from woman, but woman from man; 9neither was man created for woman, but woman for man. 10For this reason, and because of the angels, the woman ought to have a sign of authority on her head.

11In the Lord, however, woman is not independent of man, nor is man independent of woman. 12For as woman came from man, so also man is born of woman. But everything comes from God. 13Judge for yourselves: Is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head uncovered? 14Does not the very nature of things teach you that if a man has long hair, it is a disgrace to him, 15but that if a woman has long hair, it is her glory? For long hair is given to her as a covering. 16If anyone wants to be contentious about this, we have no other practice—nor do the churches of God.




1,562 posted on 02/24/2006 10:46:01 AM CST by Jaded (The truth shall set you free, but lying to yourself turns you French.)
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SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, however you want to slice it or dice it is up to you but you said what you said and then went ballistic when presented with the entire context of the verse. Others addressed you too about removing the verse from context.


1,635 posted on 02/24/2006 2:51:01 PM PST by Jaded (The truth shall set you free, but lying to yourself turns you French.)
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