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To: SoothingDave

"Can you lose your salvation if you fail to participate in the sacraments on a regular basis?

Without getting into a messy predestination/free will battle, the simple answer is "yes." We all sin, and sacraments like the Eucharist (Communion) give us strength to grow in holiness and sacraments like Confession restore us to grace after serious sin. Since we all sin, keeping ourselves from the sacraments is a sure way of letting your faith and your soul die from starvation, of falling out of grace."
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Thanks for the honest answer. I think this is probably one of the most profound differences we have. According to your response in the RCC you view grace as something you can control through your actions. In my faith grace is a free gift from GOD, which is not the result of works. Also, we do not believe we control GOD, but rather we are GOD'S possession.


1,229 posted on 02/21/2006 3:17:59 PM PST by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get out of the Way!)
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To: wmfights
According to your response in the RCC you view grace as something you can control through your actions.

IMO, more like maintaining grace through obedience. Even scriptures mention those who fall away. Seeds strewn among rocks or weeds. Some roots are shallow and dry up. Some grow and are choked by weeds.

1,234 posted on 02/21/2006 4:15:00 PM PST by Jaded (The truth shall set you free, but lying to yourself turns you French.)
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To: wmfights
Without getting into a messy predestination/free will battle, the simple answer is "yes." We all sin, and sacraments like the Eucharist (Communion) give us strength to grow in holiness and sacraments like Confession restore us to grace after serious sin. Since we all sin, keeping ourselves from the sacraments is a sure way of letting your faith and your soul die from starvation, of falling out of grace."

Thanks for the honest answer. I think this is probably one of the most profound differences we have. According to your response in the RCC you view grace as something you can control through your actions.

No. Grace is something freely given by God to us through the sacraments. Sacraments are not "our actions." They are the Lord's work done through His Body, the Church.

In my faith grace is a free gift from GOD, which is not the result of works.

Same here. Grace is freely given and results in our good works (charity, etc.). Sacraments are not our works. They are God's.

Also, we do not believe we control GOD, but rather we are GOD'S possession.

Again, not a difference. Jesus commanded us to follow his sacraments in order to bring His forgiveness to the world.

Do you believe that if you repent and ask for forgiveness God will redeem you? Is that you controlling God?

Do you ever tell people to get on their knees and ask for Jesus to save them and fill them with the Holy Spirit? Is this you controlling God?

We are no different. God made promises and He keeps them. That is not us controlling God.

SD

1,315 posted on 02/22/2006 8:18:05 AM PST by SoothingDave
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