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Where Have All the Protestants Gone?
NOR ^ | January 2006 | Thomas Storck

Posted on 02/15/2006 6:22:47 AM PST by NYer

Has anyone noticed the almost complete disappearance of Protestants from our nation? "What!" I can hear my readers exclaim, "Storck has really gone off his rocker this time. Why, just down the street there's an Assembly of God church and two or three Baptist churches and the Methodists and so on. My cousin just left the Catholic Church to become a Protestant and my niece just married one. Moreover, evangelical Protestants have many media outlets of their own and they have great influence in the Bush Administration. They're everywhere." All this, of course, is true. Except that for some time, they no longer call themselves Protestants, but simply Christians, and increasingly they've gotten Catholics to go along with their terminology.

I recall over 10 years ago when I was a lector at Mass, for the prayer of the faithful I was supposed to read a petition that began, "That Catholics and Christians…." Of course, I inserted the word "other" before "Christians," but I doubt very many in the congregation would even have noticed had I not done so. Just the other day I saw on a Catholic website an article about a Protestant adoption agency that refused to place children with Catholic parents. The headline referred not to a Protestant adoption agency but to a Christian one. And how often do we hear of Christian bookstores or Christian radio stations or Christian schools, when everyone should know they are Protestant ones?

Now, what is wrong with this? Well, it should be obvious to any Catholic -- but probably isn't. Are only Protestants Christians? Are we Catholics not Christians, indeed the true Christians? About 30 years ago, Protestants, especially evangelicals, began to drop the term Protestant and call themselves simply Christians as a not too subtle means of suggesting that they are the true and real Christians, rather than simply the children of the breakaway Protestant revolt of the 16th century. This shift in Protestant self-identification has taken on increasingly dramatic proportions. A recent Newsweek survey (Aug. 29-Sept. 5, 2005) found that, between 1990 and 2001, the number of Americans who consider themselves "Christian" (no denomination) increased by 1,120 percent, while the number of those who self-identify as "Protestant" decreased by 270 percent.

But perhaps I am getting too worked up over a small matter. After all, are not Protestants also Christians? Yes, I do not deny that. But usually we call something by its most specific name.

Protestants are theists too, but it would surely sound odd if we were to refer to their radio stations and bookstores as theistic radio stations and theistic bookstores. Language, in order to be useful, must convey human thought and concepts in as exact a way as it can. And, in turn, our thoughts and concepts should reflect reality. As Josef Pieper noted, "if the word becomes corrupted, human existence will not remain unaffected and untainted."

Moreover, words often convey more than simple concepts. A certain word may seem only to portray reality, but in fact it does more. It adds a certain overtone and connotation. Thus, it is not a small matter whether we speak of "gays" or of homosexuals. The former term was chosen specifically to inculcate acceptance of an unnatural and immoral way of life. When I was an Episcopalian, I was careful never to speak of the Catholic Church, but of the Roman Catholic Church, as a means of limiting the universality of her claims. I always called Episcopal ministers priests, again as a means of affirming that such men really were priests, in opposition to Leo XIII's definitive judgment that Anglican orders are invalid and thus that they are in no sense priests. Perhaps because of these early experiences, I am very aware of the uses of language to prejudge and control arguments, and I am equally careful now never to call Episcopal ministers priests or refer to one as Father So-and-So. And I think we should likewise not go along with the evangelical Protestant attempt to usurp the name Christian for themselves. They are Protestants, and public discourse should not be allowed to obscure that fact.

Apparently, though, it is the case that some Protestants call themselves Christians, not out of a desire to usurp the term, but out of an immense ignorance of history. That is, they ignore history to such an extent that they really don't understand that they are Protestants. Knowing or caring little about what came before them, they act as if their nicely bound Bibles had fallen directly from Heaven and anyone could simply become a Christian with no reference to past history, ecclesiology, or theology. The period of time between the conclusion of the New Testament book of Acts and the moment that they themselves "accepted Jesus Christ as their personal Savior" means nothing. Even Luther or Calvin or John Wesley mean little to them, since they can pick up their Bibles and start Christianity over again any time they want. These souls may call themselves simply Christians in good faith, but they are largely ignorant of everything about Church history. They do not understand that Jesus Christ founded a Church, and that He wishes His followers to join themselves to that Church at the same time as they join themselves to Him. In fact, one implies and involves the other, since in Baptism we are incorporated in Christ and made members of His Church at the same time.

So let us not go along with the widespread practice of calling our separated brethren simply Christians. They are Protestants. Let us begin again to use that term. It is precise. It implies Catholic doctrine in the sense that it suggests that such people are in protest against the Church. Moreover, it forces them to define themselves in terms of, rather than independently of, the One True Church. And if we do resume referring to our separated brethren as Protestants, perhaps a few of them might even be surprised enough to ask us why -- and then, behold, a teachable moment!


TOPICS: Catholic; Current Events; Ecumenism; Evangelical Christian; General Discusssion; History; Mainline Protestant; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: abortion; branson; catholics; christians; churchhistory; contraception; protestants
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To: Cronos

I'm certain it doesn't just as I'm sure it uses the hebrew version of the Torah which was in disuse in Christ and the apostles time (which is why the quoted from the greek Torah which was in wide spread use at the time)


521 posted on 02/15/2006 10:53:44 PM PST by x5452
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To: tenn2005

As opposed to those who blindly ignore the teachings of the apostles and those whom they instructed and create excuses to refuse the commandments they testified.


522 posted on 02/15/2006 10:54:47 PM PST by x5452
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To: Cronos

Why do you insist on being wrong and exposing your ignorance of scripture.


523 posted on 02/15/2006 10:54:57 PM PST by tenn2005 (Birth is merly an event; it is the path walked that becomes one's life.)
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To: tenn2005

This from a guy who ignores how God instructed his house be built.

Go back to the scripture buffet.


524 posted on 02/15/2006 10:55:52 PM PST by x5452
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To: x5452

Did He instruct the building of cathedrals or Christian churches?


525 posted on 02/15/2006 10:57:15 PM PST by tenn2005 (Birth is merly an event; it is the path walked that becomes one's life.)
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To: x5452

The temple of God is comprized of Christians, not brick and morter.


526 posted on 02/15/2006 10:59:08 PM PST by tenn2005 (Birth is merly an event; it is the path walked that becomes one's life.)
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To: x5452

I will gladly go back to the Bible if you will leave the bar.


527 posted on 02/15/2006 11:00:20 PM PST by tenn2005 (Birth is merly an event; it is the path walked that becomes one's life.)
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To: tenn2005

Ah so now you're throwing out the old testament like an old rag. Certainly the scripture Christ preached from is useless, certainly when Christ spoke of those who loved the beauty of his fathers house he was suggesting people ought not have one.


528 posted on 02/15/2006 11:00:37 PM PST by x5452
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To: tenn2005

Be sure to take an extra helping of so and so and leave that aweful stuff you can't be bothered to live up to.


529 posted on 02/15/2006 11:01:20 PM PST by x5452
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To: tenn2005

And Christ expelled the money changers because the house of God was an inrellevant building.


530 posted on 02/15/2006 11:01:57 PM PST by x5452
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To: x5452

Christ lived under the Old Testament. we dont, or do you fail to understand that. If you want to adhear to the Old Textament then you need to institute animal sacrafice.


531 posted on 02/15/2006 11:02:45 PM PST by tenn2005 (Birth is merly an event; it is the path walked that becomes one's life.)
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To: tenn2005

So now Christ was purley mortal and thus bound by the covenant for his salvation?

Christ came to fullfill scripture not destroy it. Go back to the bible buffet and be sure to ignore more than half the scripture there.


532 posted on 02/15/2006 11:04:31 PM PST by x5452
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To: x5452

Please tell me what animals you sacrifice and on what occasions?


533 posted on 02/15/2006 11:04:46 PM PST by tenn2005 (Birth is merly an event; it is the path walked that becomes one's life.)
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To: x5452

Your agogance is only exceeded by your lack of understanding of the Bible.


534 posted on 02/15/2006 11:06:00 PM PST by tenn2005 (Birth is merly an event; it is the path walked that becomes one's life.)
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To: tenn2005

Animal sacrifice was over with when sacrificing was finished. You wouldn't know when.


535 posted on 02/15/2006 11:06:37 PM PST by x5452
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To: x5452

But you want to reinstitute temple worship. Part of that was animal sacrafice. Make up your mind which it is to be.


536 posted on 02/15/2006 11:08:26 PM PST by tenn2005 (Birth is merly an event; it is the path walked that becomes one's life.)
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To: x5452

You obviously have a very limited understanding of the Bible or the Church which Jesus established. I am tired of casting pearls before swine.


537 posted on 02/15/2006 11:10:35 PM PST by tenn2005 (Birth is merly an event; it is the path walked that becomes one's life.)
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To: tenn2005

Jhn 2:16 And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise.


538 posted on 02/15/2006 11:10:53 PM PST by x5452
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To: tenn2005

I'm tired of you insulting scripture with you're little new age wisdom, and arrogant notion that the traditions Paul commanded those he wrote to, to keep are worthless.


539 posted on 02/15/2006 11:11:50 PM PST by x5452
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To: x5452

You are back in the Old Testiment period. The New Testament began on the day of Penticost AD 30.


540 posted on 02/15/2006 11:12:28 PM PST by tenn2005 (Birth is merly an event; it is the path walked that becomes one's life.)
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