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To: HarleyD; SoothingDave

I think we can all agree that the Missouri Synod of the Lutheran Church is the perfect compromise between the Catholic and the Protestant points of view.


256 posted on 02/10/2006 9:07:58 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky; SoothingDave
With all due respects to our Lutheran brethren, I think the Missouri Synod isn't a compromise at all. As much as it condemns synergism and man's "cooperation" in any form, it nevertheless argues against monergism and, in particularly, universal atonement and irresistible grace.

The statement that bothers me the most of the Missouri Synod is this:

This is the exact same problem that SD has and the root of the cause. No synergist can say WHY someone is saved and someone else is past by. The Missouri Synod admits that they have "no answers" to the "mystery" except they know that Calvin can't be right. That's why I state there is not more that a dime's worth of difference between some Protestants and Catholics. I'd like to know if the Missouri Synod can't explain it how do they know Calvin was wrong? Please also note that man’s salvation is due to God’s grace but man’s non-conversion is due to “himself”. That of course begs the question doesn’t man REALLY do something.

To a monergistic person the answer is simple contrary to what some keeps telling me is impossible to understand; God saves some, He does not save others. To simply reject an argument (one that is the ONLY plausible argument) as the Missouri Synod does and not have any alternative is not logical. While the Missouri Synod seemingly denounces synergism, it is nonetheless synergistic.

This isn't a shade of gray issue but a black and white. Either salvation is synergistic that man does something (if nothing else reject) or salvation is monergistic that God does it all.

257 posted on 02/10/2006 9:47:47 AM PST by HarleyD ("Man's steps are ordained by the LORD, How then can man understand his way?" Prov 20:24)
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To: Mr. Lucky
I think we can all agree that the Missouri Synod of the Lutheran Church is the perfect compromise between the Catholic and the Protestant points of view.

Forget it, I'm not "crossing the Mississippi." ;-)

SD

260 posted on 02/10/2006 9:53:56 AM PST by SoothingDave
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