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To: HarleyD
Well if the Bible states something is white and my Southern Baptist church says it's black, then it's time to leave; not just sit there and say, "Well glory be, and here I thought it was white." I suppose if that make me a pope then so be it.

You should endeavour greatly to discover why a Church says what it says before chucking it aside. The question is how much deference one gives to a teaching authority outside of one's own thoughts.

I don't know if you're one of those "Eureak" Calvinists (I mean, you did not buy into the idea until you had an epiphany), but if you are, you should be able to understand how the efforts of others to teach you overcame your own stubborn insistence.

Not all sincere people have all ideas right all of the time.

SD

228 posted on 02/08/2006 1:46:55 PM PST by SoothingDave
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Or "eureka," even.
229 posted on 02/08/2006 1:48:35 PM PST by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
You should endeavour greatly to discover why a Church says what it says before chucking it aside. The question is how much deference one gives to a teaching authority outside of one's own thoughts.

Actually I've spent a great deal of time researching all points of views. I would suggest I'm far more objective about my conclusions than those who simply claim the Reformation was wrong and the Catholic Church "official" doctrine is 100% right (especially when they've been known to make mistakes).

I don't know if you're one of those "Eureak" Calvinists (I mean, you did not buy into the idea until you had an epiphany) but if you are, you should be able to understand how the efforts of others to teach you overcame your own stubborn insistence.

Tsk, tsk. This coming from a Catholic who believes all doctrine must be stated by the Roman Catholic Church from the chair of Peter?

Sorry, I'm an analyst by training. (And a fairly good one at that if you'll forgive my boasting.) I do my own independent research and come to my own conclusions. Plenty of people gave me their opinion on all sides of the fence but my reliance is on the scriptures.

Most of us who have had this "epiphany" will tell you it was more like an "EEEKKK" Calvinist than an "Eureak" Calvinist. But if one were to OBJECTIVELY read the scriptures they would stop caulking everything up to a "mystery" of God. Augustine, Luther, and Calvin were right for the most part. Most of the questions are answered on this side of the tracks. It really comes down to whether you want to be consistent with God's word or you just want to believe that God is Love and He wants to give everyone a great big hug.

BTW-Have you selected a door yet? I believe I know the answer.

231 posted on 02/08/2006 3:45:03 PM PST by HarleyD ("Man's steps are ordained by the LORD, How then can man understand his way?" Prov 20:24)
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