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To: magisterium
I forgot all catholics are authorities on the subject, so there is no point to start this argument again. you will say "without the Catholics there would be no Cannon of the scriptures" and then I'll say "that doesn't give you exclusive right nor authority over it" and you'll say" the church picked up the mantle from peter blah blah blah" And that's where I say, no, Christ first never passed the mantle exclusively to Peter, and even if he did, I see no scripture calling peter the first pope", that's where you say once again that not all things are exclusive to the bible , and then I say "the bible is all I need, If it wasn't revered as the Holy scriptures, then I have no interest in it. I do not need Catholic writings to figure out my life." and so on, and so on, blah blah, ..........
74 posted on 02/06/2006 6:34:06 PM PST by whispering out loud (the bible is either 100% true, or in it's very nature it is 100% a lie)
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To: whispering out loud

Your entire premise of belief is based on individualism. But individualism, in matters of Christian faith, is demonstrably prone to division. It clearly is not what Jesus intended. He formed ONE Church, and promised to preserve it from error all days till the end of time. He did not promise to make all of its members impeccable. You seem to have problems with both concepts, but particularly the latter. You will not understand the providence of God in these matters because you WILL not to understand. God cannot be double-talked as if He were buying a car from a slick used-car salesman, however. I wish you well in your defense when you come before Him, as you evidently know the issues better than your murky and incorrect expositions of your self-teaching would initially indicate. Though you'll reject them, you have my prayers. I don't bother anymore to remonstrate round after round with people who clearly know the arguments Catholicism makes, but maintain a rhetorical style that postures along the lines that they've never heard of such arguments. I sure hope that that is what the Church has in mind by "invicible ignorance," but I'm not too persuaded that the "in" in "invincible" readily applies under those circumstances.


87 posted on 02/06/2006 6:56:30 PM PST by magisterium
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