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To: Invincibly Ignorant
For the same reason He would be equally wroth that you pervert his Torah with your psuedo Mithraism.

An amusing charge, made without evidence, and coming from a man who thinks the Mithraist Constantine a great Christian saint.

Who's we? The 90% gentiles in Messianic "synagogues"? If you're going to continue with the trinitarianism it would be nice if you'd quit crediting the Jews with it.

The numbers are irrelevant (and more like 60-40 to 75-25%), for God made Jew and Gentile into one Body in the Messiah.

And who else should I credit Trinitarianism to? Yeshua was Jewish. So were Kefa (Peter), Yochanan (John), Ya'akov (James--both of them), Y'hudah (Jude), Sha'ul (Paul), etc. All of those who penned the Bible, with the possible exceptions of Job and Luke, were Jewish.

178 posted on 02/06/2006 8:43:23 PM PST by Buggman (L'chaim b'Yeshua HaMashiach!)
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To: Buggman
An amusing charge, made without evidence, and coming from a man who thinks the Mithraist Constantine a great Christian saint.

I think Constantine a great Christian saint? You've got me confused with somebody else. No evidence? I beg to differ. The whole concept gods becoming human is pretty much all the evidence I need.

The numbers are irrelevant (and more like 60-40 to 75-25%)

Very generous number.

, for God made Jew and Gentile into one Body in the Messiah.

No, the vast majority of Jews won't join you in the body of trinitariansim. But no prob, we're all God's children.

And who else should I credit Trinitarianism to?

Surely not those you've listed below. They'd never heard the word "trinity". That's a concept you adopted from proto-orthodox and orthodoxy. You also accept their canonization but then reject most other things these same people attempt to give you. Such as the perpetual virginity of Mary, papal authority, apostolic succession. Your approach is rather smorgessboardlike.

Yeshua was Jewish. So were Kefa (Peter), Yochanan (John), Ya'akov (James--both of them), Y'hudah (Jude), Sha'ul (Paul), etc. All of those who penned the Bible, with the possible exceptions of Job and Luke, were Jewish.

Just go ahead and call them by their trinitarian given names. Orthodoxy says its ok.

I think ya'll are sincere in and don't necessarily know any better with your Messianic Judaism approach but hopefully someday you'll realize how insulting it is for Jews.

241 posted on 02/07/2006 8:02:43 AM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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