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To: Almondjoy
Perhaps.... but it's still pretty stupid to call someone a saint for what they supposedly do in the afterlife. And the proof is what? As usual it's the Catholics creating falsehoods.

Apparently you are missing several points of Scripture in your attempt to insult Catholicism. As I mentioned in an earlier post, Moses died and was buried. Yet, at the transfiguration, Jesus is standing there talking with Moses in physical form. Our God is a God of the living, not the dead, and those that go before us, continue living in union with Christ.......maybe. That's the keyword: maybe. We are not the judge of human souls, God is, and so it is beyond the ability of any man to defintively claim that a person is in heaven, or hell for that matter, unless God chooses to reveal that unto men. These revelations are the "proof" used to establish sainthood. It is the Catholic Church recognizing that a person was able to make it to heaven by what they did in this life and that we know they are in heaven.

Contrast this to the cliche "well, they're in a better place now, I'm sure of it" heard at every single funeral by people with no particular devotion to Christ sometimes and you tell me which is a more sure method of determining who has made it to heaven.
78 posted on 01/30/2006 12:31:09 PM PST by mike182d ("Other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the play?")
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To: mike182d; Almondjoy

Almondjoy can declare you saved or condemned to hell, but the Church is not allowed to declare the holiness of its faithful. Brilliant example of the Pharisiacal folly.


80 posted on 01/30/2006 12:41:22 PM PST by Rutles4Ever ("Catholicism is the only thing which saves a man from the slavery of being a child of his age." -GKC)
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To: mike182d

So the opinion of the Catholic Church is put in such high regard that you place the church before God.

Interesting.


86 posted on 01/30/2006 1:04:54 PM PST by Almondjoy
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