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To: Kolokotronis

right..


168 posted on 01/29/2006 5:57:14 PM PST by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole..)
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To: hosepipe

+John Chrysostomos also says, however, in his Baptismal Instructions:

"Are we only dying with the Master and are we only sharing in His sadness? Most of all, let me say that sharing the Master's death is no sadness. Only wait a little and you shall see yourself sharing in His benefits. 'For if we have died with Him,' says St. Paul, `we believe that we shall also live together with Him.' For in baptism there are both burial and resurrection together at the same time. He who is baptized puts off the old man, takes the new and rises up, `just as Christ has arisen through the glory of the Father.' Do you see how, again, St. Paul calls baptism a resurrection?"

In the West, +Ambrose of Milan puts it this way:

"Although we are baptized with water and the Spirit, the latter is much superior to the former, and is not therefore to be separated from the Father and-the Son. There are, however, many who, because we are baptized with water and the Spirit, think that there is no difference in the offices of water and the Spirit, and therefore think that they do not differ in nature. Nor do they observe that we are buried in the element of water that we may rise again renewed by the Spirit. For in the water is the representation of death, in the Spirit is the pledge of life, that the body of sin may die through the water, which encloses the body as it were in a kind of tomb, that we, by the power of the Spirit, may be renewed from the death of sin, being born again in God"


171 posted on 01/29/2006 6:09:05 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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