Posted on 01/27/2006 7:37:26 AM PST by NYer
Actually, Fr. Amorth is the church's leading authority on exorcism. He knows more about it and is more successful than any living priest. Don't steer clear of him. Pay attention.
Remember, just because Medjugorie was never investigated doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Perhaps Fr. Martin had more experience as an exorcist.
I love Roman Catholic Books! When I get their catalog, I want to buy nearly every book.
Yup God kept Moses totally in the dark. You're the last person that should be defining what a pagan is or isn't.
How do you know that Moses was the author, expect by tradition. Since it records his death, he might be the source of the stories but not the man who actually wrote it down.
Did not. He spoke to Moses face to face, and did nothing that He did not reveal to His prophets, of whom, Moses was the chief one.
Lol. I just have to rattle your chain once in a while to keep you from taking yourself so seriously. You'll thank me later. :-)
I was being sarcastic. Sorry for not doing the /sarcasm thing. :-)
http://www.unitypublishing.com/Apparitions/MedjugorjeIndex.html
Testing the Spirit of Medjugorje
Seriously I actually agree with this. I also believe the same holds true for Gospel authors.
I'm not exactly sure of your own position in this matter. I will just say again that Catholics scold Protestants for their rejection of tradition and their ignorance of how the scriptures came to be. Yet Catholics reject the Jewish traditions (often in scathing crypto-Protestant language) which since the time of Moses had taught that HaShem dictated the Torah to Moses letter-for-letter and that Moses wrote it down at G-d's dictation. What is the point of defending tradition if you're not only going to be a Protestant with regard to your predecessor tradition but a liberal Protestant at that, repeating nineteenth century German Protestant theories with gusto? I realize that you cannot accept all Jewish tradition, but you are still in a quandary when you preach traditionalism to Protestants and then turn around and imply that every Jewish teaching not explicitly written in the Torah is "the invention of priests and pharisees." Do Catholics truly believe that "authentic" Judaism was meant to be a sola scriptura faith and that only with the coming of chr*stianity was an authentic oral interpretive tradition essential?
I will also never understand why Catholics defend every tradition they have which trouble Protestants while those things held in common with Protestants (such as the scriptures) are subject to militant doubt and skepticism. But then, I don't understand why Catholics defend "Catholic miracles" (ie, marian apparitions, bilocations, the new testament miracles) while insisting that every supernatural phenomenon recorded in the "old testament" is mere didactic mythology.
On your personal page you call yourself a "native Southerner and Catholic." I have just finished an e-mail to a friend in which I questioned why we Southerners seem to naturally believe so intensely, while other peoples who theoretically share these beliefs seem so "sophisticated" and lukewarm in their beliefs. You must recall that Fundamentalist Protestants are often scolded by liturgical chr*stians for presenting a stumblingblock to intellectuals who will never accept religion if it requres them to question the infallibility of uniformitarian science. Do Catholics and Orthodox have no compassion whatsoever for people to whom uniformitarianism represents a stumblingblock? Are the simple people of the world now considered undesirable by religion? If so I hope Catholics will criticize their own Haitian and Bolivian peasants as well as Appalachian Protestants.
I doubt you have noticed, but the atheists on FR have been very active recently in attacking religion. Yet liturgical chr*stians choose not to get involved, opting rather to laugh at "Protestant creationism" instead.
Like you, I am a native Southerner. Unlike you, I don't understand the need of "respectable" religion to reinterpret every Biblical event in light of uniformitarian science and skeptical critical theories while defending most supernaturalistic Catholic traditions.
I guess there are just different kinds of Southerners. And my kind will never understand your kind.
Well, I don't see why it is not possible that Moses passed on his revelation in the same way that the Muslims claim that Mohammed passed on his. It may be indeed the case that the Law was inscribed in stone. Having see the law of Hammarabi in the Louve, I don't see why the law given to the Israelis might not originally have taken the same form. But somewhere along the way, those words were tranferred to "paper" and that process need not have been under the eye of Moses, nor every word been his alone. As to the supernatural, it is not something that exists in the past or in a realm unconnected with our own. To the contrary, it is ever with us, as surely as the air we breathe, inseperable from the natural., in fact ,holding it in existence.
Most Catholics are obviously uncomfortble with and afraid of the alleged basis of their own religion. Perhaps they should ask themselves why.
I do not have the impression that Catholics, ordinary Catholics are any more "naturalistic" abouyt the events of the Old Testament than the New. As for the intellectuals, they seem to distance themselves from the miracles of Lourdes. One thing you do not consider is that the ordinary Catholic really doesn't know much about the Old Testament. Barbara Tuchman, the Jewish historian, once reminded us of the close identification that English Protestants felt weith the "Israeltes," who for them replaced the Catholic Anglo-Saxons as their "true" ancestors. The number of Hebrew names among the Puritan fathers exemplifies this. That's because they no longer honored the saints and confined themselves to Biblical names.
trying to instill fear too.
Fear of puppies?
no
fear of demons. fear of God. I was brought up Catholic and that was all that was instilled to me was fear of God. Fear of anything. We were run into confession weekly, whether we needed to or not.
I see. I've never run into that kind of thing.
Pookie!
LOL!
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