To: bornacatholic; MarMema; Kolokotronis; jude24; RnMomof7
David Hill.Presbyterian minister at the University of Sheffield : David Hill, The Gospel of Matthew, Grand Rapids, MI: Eerdmans, 1972 ~~ It is on Peter himself, the confessor of his Messiahship, that Jesus will build the Church. Attempts to interpret the 'rock' as something other than Peter in person (e.g. his faith, Jesus, etc.) are due to Protestant bias, and introduce to the statement a degree of which is highly unlikelyAs a Magisterial Presbyterian -- the Heir of the Scottish Church founded by Greek Missionaries from Asia Minor long before the Roman-Papist Usurpation -- I do not doubt, deny, nor dispute the Scriptural Fact that Jesus Christ did Himself Personally-ordain the Apostle Saint Peter to play an absolutely-foundational role in the establishment of the New Testament Church amongst the Jews, just as Our Lord also Personally-ordained the Apostle Saint Paul to play an absolutely-foundational role in the establishment of the New Testament Church amongst the Gentiles (Galatians 2:8).
All of which does nothing to change the fact that, according to Acts 15, the God-Ordained Organization of the New Testament Church IS CONCILIAR, AND NOT PAPAL; and that it was Apostle James the Brother of Jesus, AND NOT PETER, who pronounced the Judgment of the Council.
When all is said and done, you can't argue with Acts 15.
The Government of the Church is Conciliar, NOT PAPAL; and James was the first "President", NOT PETER.
Best, OP
96 posted on
01/20/2006 8:10:18 AM PST by
OrthodoxPresbyterian
(We are Unworthy Servants; We have only done Our Duty)
To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Heir of the Scottish Church founded by Greek Missionaries from Asia Minor Care to name any of those "Greek Missionaries"?
Is this the same kind of historical fiction that has Joseph of Arimathea as the first Anglican?
97 posted on
01/20/2006 9:00:31 AM PST by
Campion
("I am so tired of you, liberal church in America" -- Mother Angelica, 1993)
To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
Why was only Peter given the Keys?
To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
When all is said and done, you can't argue with Acts 15. The Government of the Church is Conciliar, NOT PAPAL; and James was the first "President", NOT PETER. Amen, OP. Welcome back, Brother.
108 posted on
01/20/2006 11:55:51 AM PST by
Dr. Eckleburg
(an ambassador in bonds)
To: OrthodoxPresbyterian
As a Magisterial Presbyterian -- the Heir of the Scottish Church founded by Greek Missionaries from Asia Minor long before the Roman-Papist Usurpation -- I do not doubt, deny, nor dispute the Scriptural Fact that Jesus Christ did Himself Personally-ordain the Apostle Saint Peter to play an absolutely-foundational role in the establishment of the New Testament Church amongst the Jews, just as Our Lord also Personally-ordained the Apostle Saint Paul to play an absolutely-foundational role in the establishment of the New Testament Church amongst the Gentiles (Galatians 2:8)I have oft noted that if Peter had gone to Rome and established a church there, or taken a leadership position he would have been disobedient to the mission God had given to him , which was the apostle to the Jews.
People mistake the refusal to accept on faith alone ( as there is no contemporty proof of this) that Peter was disobedient to God and instead of completing his mission to the Jews, he went to the gentiles.
137 posted on
01/21/2006 7:31:27 AM PST by
RnMomof7
("Sola Scriptura,Sola Christus,Sola Gratia,Sola Fide,Soli Deo Gloria)
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