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To: AlbionGirl; HarleyD; RnMomof7
Hi, AG. Stay warm through the snow.

The most important question for last: Why were the Reformers so viscerally contra the Real Presence? Per that link, they seem to despise it, and that seems so over-the-top.

I think what you're perceiving is accurate. Among Protestants, especially the Reformed, there is an almost tactile disdain for all things mystical. This is one reason I admire Reformed doctrine. It is the antithesis of "hidden" wisdom. As you've noted, the Reformed very nearly "despise" anything that suggests of an esoteric nature within man himself. Man is a fallen, sinning creature. Redeemed men are children of God. But that is due solely to and absolutely by the death of Christ on the cross who paid the price for our sins and acquitted us of our guilt.

Nothing hidden. Nothing uncertain. And most of all, nothing transmogrifying. Mystical transformation is for alchemists. Men begin as human beings; men die as human beings. But by Christ's atonement, we will see heaven. Scripture gives us this promise. Christ Himself gave us this promise. He will lose none whom God has given Him to redeem.

So Protestants do not like the ambiguity of the RC and EO. It appears manipulative to us. It appears extraneous to the completed work of Christ. It appears to be excess baggage, ribbons and bows and beads, all obscuring our finished redemption by Christ.

Our redemption is not ongoing. Our sanctification is ongoing and continues as long as we live. But our sins were paid-in-full at Calvary. Salvation has been accomplished by God's grace through faith in Jesus Christ alone.

There's a scene in the movie "Cromwell" with Richard Harris. Cromwell (who had his own problems along the way) enters church one Sunday morning with his family and is shocked to find the table of the Lord's Supper turned away from the congregation. In Protestant churches, the table and minister face the congregation.

When Cromwell sees this apparent return to RC tradition, he explodes and flings the table around in a fit of righteous fury.

It's a very interesting scene that appeals to Protestants. We tend to be allergic to the pomp and dislike the distance between God and man that we believe is created by top-heavy hierarchies.

Salvation is so much simpler than many would have it. Believe and be saved.

"Seeing that a Pilot steers the ship in which we sail, who will never allow us to perish even in the midst of shipwrecks, there is no reason why our minds should be overwhelmed with fear and overcome with weariness." -- John Calvin

"These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world." -- John 16:33

230 posted on 01/25/2006 9:32:18 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (an ambassador in bonds)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Thanks for the thorough response.

Men begin as human beings; men die as human beings.

I'm not sure why that so touched me, but it did.

and dislike the distance between God and man that we believe is created by top-heavy hierarchies

That distance is what I struggle with too. Like a wild horse, who is forced to carry an unnatural weight, my instinct is to throw the weight off, lest I become broken.

236 posted on 01/26/2006 9:38:37 AM PST by AlbionGirl
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