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To: conservonator
Hmm, Peter is given authority to preach the gospel to both the Jews and the gentiles,

The only Gentiles mentioned in the bible he preached to was Cornelius and his household.

All Scripture is inspired and truth so you must go to the letter to the galations

Gal 2:7 But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as [the gospel] of the circumcision [was] unto Peter;

Gal 2:8 (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:)

Gal 2:9 And when James, Cephas, and John, who seemed to be pillars, perceived the grace that was given unto me, they gave to me and Barnabas the right hands of fellowship; that we [should go] unto the heathen, and they unto the circumcision.

pronounces the dogma that James, the Bishop of the See of Jerusalem, who would be responsible for annunciating a decision of a council held there confirms

He addressed the council, without personal authority or power. James as the head of the council made the declaration .Peter participated but he was not the leader, or head. After this we NEVER hear of Peter again.

, he preaches in Babylon, which is universally (at least until the Reformers and their heirs found it inconvenient) believed to be Rome, where his bones are,

Well it is interesting that Catholics believe that Babylon is Rome and the church there huh? LOL if I said it I would be called anti Catholic .

Rev 14:8 And there followed another angel, saying, Babylon is fallen, is fallen, that great city, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.

Rev 18:2 And he cried mightily with a strong voice, saying, Babylon the great is fallen, is fallen, and is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit, and a cage of every unclean and hateful bird.

Please present a contemporary writing that places Peter in Rome at any time

226 posted on 01/25/2006 2:59:50 PM PST by RnMomof7 ("Sola Scriptura,Sola Christus,Sola Gratia,Sola Fide,Soli Deo Gloria)
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To: RnMomof7; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg
Hi to each of you.

How's the weather, Mom? Not too bad here, but could get ugly later. I love snowstorms!!!!

Ok, here's the real reason I'm writing. I read the entire link that Dr. E provided regarding the Martyrs of the Reformation. I was hesitant about posting this because I didn't and don't want to sidetrack the thread, but I think that's already happened, no?

Anyway, I have some questions. If these questions have already been addressed, and you'd rather not go there, then, if you could point me in the direction of a thread that has already covered this, that would be good too.

That link that laid out the stories of the Martyrs was interesting for many reasons. I have always held the Martyrs for the Faith in especially high esteem, and I was very moved by the accounts therein. If you ever get the chance to read about St. Jean de Brebeuf, it will move you, too. He's a Catholic North American Martyr whose life and death is astounding. And, let us not forget that contemporary Martyr, the young lady at Columbine, whose name, I'm sorry to say, I don't know, but I think of her too now and again.

Anyway, here are the questions:

1)Hasn't there been some indication for some time, per even Protestant historians, that Foxe's account may contain embellishment? Not that I'm implying, even if true, that it would render it without substance and meaning, just want to get your take on that.

2)The most important question for last: Why were the Reformers so viscerally contra the Real Presence? Per that link, they seem to despise it, and that seems so over-the-top.

Even if they believed it to be untrue, why did they despise the doctrine so? Their arguments, per Scripture, I don't find that convincing. What I did find convincing was the idea that they promulgated which stated that the Doctrine of the Real Presence was used as a gateway to who was considered a real Christian and who was not. Am I understanding that correctly insofar as the Reformers views are concerned?

227 posted on 01/25/2006 4:50:21 PM PST by AlbionGirl
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To: RnMomof7
How can someone so hyper literal and selective, fall for the fantasy of sola scriptura and deny the Real Presence? Your scripture spamming has little or no bearing on these facts, Peter was called to preach to all men, he alone was given authority and he was in Rome. Why would you believe a contemporary writer when you won't even believe scripture? And besides, since Peters death isn't recorded in scripture, how do you know Clement wasn't a contemporary? Based on your ever shifting criteria, you don't.

When are you going to give up on all this damaging infatuation with Calvin's "teachings" and come home?

229 posted on 01/25/2006 6:35:53 PM PST by conservonator (Pray for those suffering)
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