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To: jude24; OrthodoxPresbyterian; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg
I don't subscribe to Papal infallibility, but especially this current Pope has a lot of credibility with me. He seems to recognize the most serious threat to modern Christianity is secular post-modernism. So I'll listen to him, just like I'll listen to any church leader with whom I share my disagreements.

The problem today is as it has always been, SIN . The solution is what it has always been, Gods grace.

We can not make a goat a sheep, we can not change the unregenerate nature of the reprobate by forcing him to adhere to OUR morality . If men were saved by their own merits and "goodness" perhaps the approach of trying to enforce a Christian code of ethics on the reprobates might make sense. But if salvation rests on God and His grace alone, and if God is truly sovereign over all things making alliances with those with whom we are unequally yoked or praising the work of men or seeking alliances with unregenerate men for a social end is fruitless and sinful IMHO.

Remember in Genesis when Abram refused to take booty from the King of Sodom ? He did not want it said that the King of Sodom had any hold over him or a part of his fortune.

That was great wisdom, and something we should consider when making alliances. Even the reprobates can see the social issues among us, that gives them no spiritual standing with me..

151 posted on 01/23/2006 8:24:06 AM PST by RnMomof7 ("Sola Scriptura,Sola Christus,Sola Gratia,Sola Fide,Soli Deo Gloria)
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To: RnMomof7; OrthodoxPresbyterian; Campion
Remember in Genesis when Abram refused to take booty from the King of Sodom ? He did not want it said that the King of Sodom had any hold over him or a part of his fortune.

While the Roman Catholic priesthood has entirely too many Sodomite priests, the Pope is certainly not any such thing. Such a comparison is offensive - he's a fellow Christian. He may hold what I believe to be aberrent doctrines, but he is most certainly not a man with "no spiritual standing."

184 posted on 01/24/2006 10:47:35 AM PST by jude24 ("Thy law is written on the hearts of men, which iniquity itself effaces not." - St. Augustine)
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