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To: NYer
"Second, there are many more people who, even stating that they are not believers, will obtain eternal salvation."

OoooooooooooK.....

It's now confirmed one doesn't have to be a believer to obtained salvation. In fact, people can emphatically state they are NOT believers and still be saved. Incredibly the author quotes all sorts of Catholic papers but never the scripture. Perhaps this is the true error.

3 posted on 01/17/2006 4:32:54 AM PST by HarleyD (Joh 6:44 "No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on)
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To: HarleyD
It's now confirmed one doesn't have to be a believer to obtained salvation. In fact, people can emphatically state they are NOT believers and still be saved. Incredibly the author quotes all sorts of Catholic papers but never the scripture. Perhaps this is the true error.

And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. (John 3:14-18 KJV)

4 posted on 01/17/2006 5:58:48 AM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: HarleyD

Quote: "Incredibly the author quotes all sorts of Catholic papers but never the scripture. Perhaps this is the true error."

Roman Catholicism has two sources of authority: Scripture and Tradition. Thus, the lack of Biblical references is no problem for the RC.


6 posted on 01/17/2006 6:26:59 AM PST by Fischer1483
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To: HarleyD
Another fine demonstration of cherry picking one verse out of context and attempting to bend its meaning from what the author intended.

And all to serve to further the cause of ridicule. Good job. Rest well.

SD

10 posted on 01/17/2006 6:53:05 AM PST by SoothingDave
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To: HarleyD
Matthew 23:13

"But woe to you scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites; because you shut the kingdom of heaven against men, for you yourselves do not enter in; and those that are going in, you suffer not to enter."

18 posted on 01/17/2006 8:18:09 AM PST by Rutles4Ever
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To: HarleyD
Matthew 7:21 "Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven."
20 posted on 01/17/2006 8:19:42 AM PST by Rutles4Ever
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To: HarleyD

Matthew 21:31

"Amen I say to you, that the publicans and the harlots shall go into the kingdom of God before you."


21 posted on 01/17/2006 8:22:26 AM PST by Rutles4Ever
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