No, polls by mainstream polling organizations, like Gallup.
Virtually every design supported you hear about in the movement are OECS of one type or another: Dembski, Behe, Johnson, Denton, etc.
Yes, I know the leaders of the ID movement all say they accept an old Earth when pressed, though they try to avoid talking about it. Some, like Behe and Denton, even accept evolution. They just believe that God had to constantly intervene in the process with mini miracles.
I was talking about the rank and file, not the leaders of the movement. There are a bunch of polls out there showing that the vast majority of the public who doubt evolution believe in a literal 6 day creation. That's a fact.
Now there's a lie if I've ever seen one.
Oh? What do you think of this statement by Dembski?
What theistic evolution does is take the Darwinian picture of the biological world and baptize it, identifying this picture with the way God created life. When boiled down to its scientific content, theistic evolution is no different from atheistic evolution...
"No, polls by mainstream polling organizations, like Gallup."
You mean the same Gallup known for wording polls to get certain results?
"Yes, I know the leaders of the ID movement all say they accept an old Earth when pressed, though they try to avoid talking about it. Some, like Behe and Denton, even accept evolution. They just believe that God had to constantly intervene in the process with mini miracles."
So you admit they are OECs? Regardless of kind, they are still OECs. At least thiestic evolutionists like Denton don't abandon ALL of science like YECs do.
"There are a bunch of polls out there showing that the vast majority of the public who doubt evolution believe in a literal 6 day creation. That's a fact."
Let's see: Polls prove evolution, polls also prove YECism. As you seem to have stumbled upon, polls aren't science. Using polls as "evidence" is a logical fallacy. That's a fact.
"What do you think of this statement by Dembski?"
He's saying thiestic evolution is not valid. Same thing I say, as do most OECs, with only a few exceptions. Thanks for pointing out that I'm right again.
"No, polls by mainstream polling organizations, like Gallup."
You mean the same Gallup known for wording polls to get certain results?
"Yes, I know the leaders of the ID movement all say they accept an old Earth when pressed, though they try to avoid talking about it. Some, like Behe and Denton, even accept evolution. They just believe that God had to constantly intervene in the process with mini miracles."
So you admit they are OECs? Regardless of kind, they are still OECs. At least thiestic evolutionists like Denton don't abandon ALL of science like YECs do.
"There are a bunch of polls out there showing that the vast majority of the public who doubt evolution believe in a literal 6 day creation. That's a fact."
Let's see: Polls prove evolution, polls also prove YECism. As you seem to have stumbled upon, polls aren't science. Using polls as "evidence" is a logical fallacy. That's a fact.
"What do you think of this statement by Dembski?"
He's saying thiestic evolution is not valid. Same thing I say, as do most OECs, with only a few exceptions. Thanks for pointing out that I'm right again.