Well, Ross didn't say much of anything in the debate you linked to, so I'll suspend judgement on his arguments. All I have to go on is what Kaiser said, and frankly, his arguments were lousy. He's a prime example of how NOT to argue against YECS.
In the young-earth view you have plants appearing before the Sun, but the OE view recognizes that in the early Earth that the Sun was hidden by the clouded atmosphere. This matchs percisely with Genesis, especially when the Hebrew is properly rendered.
That's a bit of a stretch, it seems to me, but if you find it convincing, more power to you. I honestly don't see how it matters for salvation. I'd only caution you against using this on YECs, 'cause it's not going to convince them .
The sequence of animals is also correct when one correctly considers the Hebrew meaning(s).
Okay, this I've got to see. Ross didn't say anything about this in the link you provided. Would you mind enlightening me a bit?
Most people don't realize that ancient Hebrew had limited vocabulary and that most words had multiple meanings.
Maybe, but birds didn't come before land animals, and the Bible says they did. Now it doesn't seem to me that you'd need a big vocabulary to express the sequence correctly. Are you telling me Hebrew doesn't have a precise word for bird?
If you've got a way of rationalizing this one, I'd love to see it.
"Well, Ross didn't say much of anything in the debate you linked to, so I'll suspend judgement on his arguments. All I have to go on is what Kaiser said, and frankly, his arguments were lousy. He's a prime example of how NOT to argue against YECS."
Ross will be heard from more in the other parts of the debates. Kaiser is a well-respected defendeder of the literal Bible, whereas the best Ken Ham could do is make things up or refer to other YECs.
"That's a bit of a stretch, it seems to me, but if you find it convincing, more power to you. I honestly don't see how it matters for salvation."
It's not a stretch, it's a matter of fact. And it's the YECs who time and time again have made the days of Genesis a matter of salvation. The explicitly say so.
"Okay, this I've got to see. Ross didn't say anything about this in the link you provided. Would you mind enlightening me a bit?"
I thought you were well-educated in all this? Obviously not. How do you people persume to talk about the Bible and don't even know fundamental things about it? Ross details at great length these issues in the book "The Genesis Question."
"Maybe, but birds didn't come before land animals, and the Bible says they did."
Wrong again. In Genesis 1:20, the word translated as "bird" is never used to describe birds elsewhere in the Bible. It's used to describe insects. In Genesis 1:21, the hebrew used refers to all sorts of higher animals, including birds.
Now that you're fundamental argument is gone, try studying the text in more detail, not in the superficial manner that YECs do.