[HarleyD]

I have Roman Catholics on another post telling me you don't really need to believe in Jesus to be saved, Orthodoxs tell me "we are not judged by our good or bad deeds at all but rather by how much like Christ we have become" and you call us Calvinists "strident". And were suppose to look the other way at these false teachings? I would simply refer you to your author:

"The problem is that we might not like what we hear. For the Lord calls us all outside of our comfort zones, to reach out to others, and speak the truth in love to others, as uncomfortable as that may be."

Abortion will never be solved until Christians get their doctrinal act together. If we do not speak right about God why do you think He will bother to bless us? If 50% of the people in churches are having abortions do you honestly think this makes the church a credible witness?

Strident indeed!

[Huber]

Let's go beyond the strawman arguments. 50% of Americans voted for Algore, but this does not mean that Americans as a group are environmentalist wackos. If you wish to debate the RC catechism, that's fine, but those who sin and are in conflict with the teaching of the church should not be taken to represent the church or its teaching.