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To: Cvengr
It might be noted that in every instance of Satan's falls in the Scripture, he was always promoting good and surrounded by perfect environment, yet in each case he failed to exhibit the mind of Christ and remain obedient to God by God's methods.

Do you mind giving me some Chapter and Verse references?

37 posted on 01/16/2006 4:04:47 PM PST by AlbionGirl
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To: AlbionGirl

From my notebook..

Perfect environment is insufficient to provide a relationship with God on His grounds.

We only have to look at each time in Scripture where God reveals to us a perfect environment surrounding Satan when he suffers a fall due to his rebellion from God's will.

1) In eternity past, Lucifer became Satan upon declaring the 5 "I wills'. At that time Lucifer was the light bearer, highest of all angels at the time as a member of the order of the Morning Star. Arrogance explains Satan's fall. He became enamored with his beauty, with his genius, with his ability, with all the attention and approbation he received. As a result, he revolted against God and said, "I will be like the Most High God," Isa 14:12-14.

Lucifer resided in heaven at that time in a perfect environment, declared the five 'I wills' and was cast down from heaven with a third of the angels.

2) In the Garden of Eden, again God created a perfect environment, free of sin, and the Adversary as the serpent tempted Eve, who then tempted Adam who rebelled on his own volition from God's will and in his spiritual death he surely died. Satan then made lower still, to be trampled under the foot of man, but also enmity was placed the in the heart of man toward Satan.

The fall of mankind in the Garden duplicates the fall of Satan in the Garden of God, according to Ezek 28. In both cases, the fall occurred under conditions of perfect environment.

With the fall of Adam, Satan became the ruler of this world. That in itself is the explanation for a tremendous amount of suffering in this world, because Satan, though brilliant and a genius, does not have the capabilities of producing the perfect environment he intends to produce before the Second Advent and millennial reign of Christ.


3) Once again, when our Lord and Savior was on earth, the volition of Satan tempted our Lord. Later, when unsuccessful at tempting our Lord to fall, Satan influenced others around Him so that they would use every device they could conceive to tempt our Lord away from remaining faithful in His thinking in soul and spirit and body to the will of the Father.

Upon our Lord's descension into Hades, a consequence of His first death, a state of existence involving separation of his spirit from His body and soul, being returned to the Father, and his soul having been separated from the body by His fleshly death with the body going to the grave for three days, and His soul descending to Hades, now that same perfect soul in Hades perfect in de re and de dicto, unlocked the gates of Abraham's Bosom another perfect environment, that allowed the believers to ascend and come face to face with our Lord in heaven. In contrast, the authority of Satan to use death as a weapon upon man was again fallen even to the depths of Hades itself.

Once again, Satan is diminished after a series of temptation and sins, but in this case, our Lord and Savior bore the sins of all mankind, past, present and future, and they were imputed upon Him. Satan however had no part in that propitiation. God in His perfect justice provided grace to those who also shared the same faith and allowed them to ascend, while no action was necessary for the dual of the argument further lowered the status of Satan amongst even those he held by the threat of death.

God also demonstrates that perfect environment is not the solution to man's problem. The solution resides in man's mental attitude, in his thought pattern, and in his resultant decisions all directed toward relationship with God.

In the case of Abraham's Bosom, indeed a type of perfect environment, when believers resided their in faith, even more grace was extended and they also were raised.

4) Our Lord Jesus Christ supersedes Satan as the ruler of this world under His third royal title, King of kings and Lord of lords, the Bright Morning Star. He rules for 1000 years under perfect environment. When He returns to the earth, Christ brings with Him His royal family of God in resurrection bodies.

Satan led a revolt against the perfect environment of heaven in which he took one third of all angels, Rev 12:4.

The Bible describes this perfect environment of the Millennium in many ways: "The lion and the lamb shall lie down side by side." "The swords will be turned into plowshares, the spears into pruning hooks; man will learn war no more." "The child will put his hand in the cobra's den and pet cobras." "The desert will blossom like a crocus." "A child will be a child for 100 years." In most cases, except for capital punishment for criminals, death will take a holiday and everyone will live through the entire Millennium. Everyone will have perfect health. There will be no such thing as starvation. Though there will be a little crime (inevitable since the old sin nature still exists), there will be no jails since the enforcement of capital punishment will tremendously discourage most crime.

In contrast to the terrible violence during the Tribulation, the millennial reign of Jesus Christ will be one of perfect environment in every way.

The instigation of the Gog Revolution against God and the perfect environment of the Millennium is tantamount to Satan's admission of his guilt, the guilt of all fallen angels, and the proof of guilt of all unregenerate mankind

Rev 12:9, "And the great dragon was thrown down out of heaven, the serpent of ancient times who is called the devil and Satan, who deceived the entire inhabited earth; he was cast down to the earth and his angels were cast out with him."

Then there is a post-historic sentence carried out against Satan and all fallen angels when they are cast into the Lake of Fire forever, Rev 20:10. Unbelievers of the human race are resurrected and cast into the Lake of Fire forever, Rev 20:11-15.


Rather than attacking one another, let's remain in faith with our Lord Christ Jesus and search the Scripture for even more significance in this rarely taught doctrine. It's a nice reminder whenever some get too enthralled by worldly or carnal luxuries without faith in God (not appealing to either asceticism or a frantic search for counterfeit happiness, but simply occupied with how how Lord Christ Jesus gave us the perfect example of how we all shoulf solve problems in all our thinking and approaches to all situations.


38 posted on 01/16/2006 6:35:32 PM PST by Cvengr (<;^))
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