Posted on 01/10/2006 10:06:56 AM PST by Terriergal
"What's so wrong with those beliefs?"
There is nothing wrong with them and I don't think Warren is criticizing them. In fact he believes strongly in them as his writings show. The context of his statement is Christians acting in the world to help those in need. What he is saying is that modern day fundamentalists are known more for what they are against than what they are for. They have separated themselves so much from the hurts of the world that they have abandoned the stage, except for the abortion issue, to the liberals and social agencies. I don't think he was criticizing the five Fundamentals but the lack of Christian praxis in the Fundamental churches.
As Christians we do have a responsibility to warn the flock.
he says they are narrow and legalistic.
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"Son of man, I have made you a watchman unto the house of Israel; therefore, hear the word from my mouth and give them warning from me...."
It seems to me that he deliberately fails to define it, because "fundamentalist" has become such a hot-button code word for "religious jerk." Do you know anyone who defines themself as a fundamentalist? I don't. I define myself as a biblical Christian, who attends an Episcopal church because I grew up there and am comfortable with the liturgy and the music. But, if you cross-examined me in detail on my beliefs, many would describe me as "fundamentalist". To a lot of people, if you believe that the bible means what it says, you are a "fundamentalist".
It seems to me that Warren is trying to bypass that hot-button stereotype, and I'm not sure that's a bad thing.
"Here is the point:
If you believe the following, Rick Warren says you are just as bad as a Muslim fundamentalist, and that you are narrow and legalist."
Read the context of the statement. He is talking about separation because of fear of the world. That separation is pharisaism. We are told to go into the world to preach, heal, set at liberty and restore. You can't do that with a covenant of don'ts and fear. What we have in Christ and protected in us by the Holy Spirit he is saying don't hide go out and be lights and share it with the world.
I do. In fact I define myself as a White-Anglo-Saxon-Protestant-Right-Wing-Conservative Fundamentalist-Evangelical-Christian-Jesus-Freak. And if that doesn't offend just about everyone, then I'm sorry. I tried.
That ought to do it.
"Is ice and snow greater than God? Couldn't some walk over?"
Well He provided it and called our Pastor to make decisions like what is best for the families he was called to lead. No one walks to my church.
He and his wife have been in Nepal for many years now.
I hope that means they have been spared many years worth of crappy modern praise music.
It's 20 miles. Uphill. Both ways.
God has blessed the church through him.
Incoming!
You have an unusual community. For the most part, in my experience,and in reading Fundamentalist material, that is not the case. again, when it comes to direct evangelism, they are without peer, but that is not all we are called to do. Look at some of the posts on this thread, at the heat Warren is taking, not just for his comment on Fundamentalism, on his urging the church to get involved in the social needs of the world, which we are called to do, and you can get a sense of the disappointment he must feel for the believing church and why he would think that we are "enemies"..
me too
NOt really. Not for me.
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