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SSPX and FSSP Traditionalists Unite Against Blasphemy
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Posted on 01/07/2006 4:59:53 PM PST by narses

Traditionalists Unite Against Blasphemy

Remnant Press Release www.remnantnewspaper.com

Dear fellow Catholics,

I talked with Mr. John Watkins (coordinator for the Latin Mass community at Blessed Sacrament) this morning concerning the awful event planned for Sunday at 4:00 p.m. http://www.kansascitykansan.com/articles/2006/01/04/news/local/news13.txt

They (The Latin Mass Community) are asking for our help. They would like us to join them in the spirit of peacefully consoling our Blessed Lord for the abomination that is scheduled for Sunday at 4:00 p.m. and to demonstrate to the Archdiocese that this type of blasphemous "musical performance" is not Catholic and cannot be tolerated in a Catholic place of worship.

The plan is to show up around 3:45 p.m. at the front and side entrances OUTSIDE of Blessed Sacrament Church (2203 Parallel, in Kansas City, Kan. see map: http://www.mapblast.com/(iw0ji5jsbz1jgvvgfiaum3at)/map.aspx?L=USA&C=39.12863%2c-94.65383&A=7.16667&P=|39.12863%2c-94.65383|1|2203+Parallel+Pkwy%2c+Kansas+City%2c+KS+66104|L1| where the Rosary will be led by 2 FSSP priests.

In the meantime, please take the time to call (913-721-1570), or fax (913-721-1577) and express your displeasure of this event to Archbishop Naumann in hopes that he will be moved to cancel or change it to a different venue -- I'm not sure an e-mail to the Archbishop would be read in time.

PLEASE FORWARD THIS E-MAIL (AND CALL) AS MANY CATHOLICS AS YOU CAN IMMEDIATELY TO OBLIGE THEM TO JOIN IN THE ROSARY AND TO IMMEDIATELY CONTACT THE CHANCERY.

Thanks and God bless you for your help. Your reward will be great.

Steve Dailey (SSPX parishioner)


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1 posted on 01/07/2006 4:59:54 PM PST by narses
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To: narses; GatorGirl; maryz; afraidfortherepublic; Antoninus; Aquinasfan; livius; goldenstategirl; ...

Another reason to see hope - the FSSP and SSPX are working together, at least in this instance. Hurrah!


2 posted on 01/07/2006 5:00:41 PM PST by narses (St Thomas says “lex injusta non obligat”)
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To: narses

I am neither SSPX nor FSSP but I would protest this event!


4 posted on 01/07/2006 5:05:32 PM PST by netmilsmom (God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
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To: P-Marlowe

What exactly do you mean by your post?
Do you agree with this event?


5 posted on 01/07/2006 5:13:04 PM PST by netmilsmom (God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
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To: P-Marlowe
"It appears that the church is putting on a "musical" event outside the sanctuary where some ex-con rap musicians repent of their past deeds and some Gregorian
Chants are given some rhythmic accompaniment Have I got that right?
What exactly is wrong with that?
Where is the "Blasphemy"?

This is a question which could only be posed by a non-Catholic, or a Catholic who knows nothing about his faith, (and I do mean absolutely nothing. I suspect the latter.

7 posted on 01/07/2006 5:25:35 PM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" Pope Urban II ~ 1097A.D.)
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To: P-Marlowe

As it was said previously, the Gregorian Chant was born to be interpreted inside the Liturgy of the Church. Therefore it is the Liturgy the natural stage.

1. The Mass: In the celebration of the Eucharist two principal groups of pieces exist:

a) The Ordinary: It is composed by texts that are repeated in all the Masses.

* Kyrie Eleison
* Gloria in excelsis Deo
* Creed
* Sanctus and Benedictus
* Agnus Dei


b) The Proprium: It is constituted by pieces that are sung according to the liturgical time or according to the feast that is celebrated.

* Introit: chant of entrance to initiate the celebration
* Gradual, Hallelujah or Tract after the readings
* Offertory to accompany the procession of the gifts
* Communion


c) In addition to these two groups of pieces, there are others that are sung as recitatives with some inflections (cantillatio): such are the prayers, the readings, the preface and the Eucharistic prayer, Our Father. These are pieces that for its simplicity could be executed by the celebrant or by persons who have no special skills for the singing.

2. The Divine Office: In the Monasteries, the monks did (and still they do) a break in his works and were meeting regularly at certain hours of the day to do their prayer.

* Vigils: Or watching in the night. The office of Vigils consists of a hymn, psalms, readings, scriptural and patristic, and canticles suitable to the spirit of the midnight hour when one awaits the arrival of the Bridegroom (Mt 25:6; Mk 13:35)
* Lauds: It is celebrated at daybreak when the sun is dispelling the night and the new day is born. The Church has always considered the sun to be a symbol of Christ rising from the dead. This prayer is called Lauds because it is a laudatory liturgy of praise in the early morning light.
* Terce: 9 AM. A Latin term for third hour, is prayed at mid-morning. Traditionally it is dedicated to the coming of the Holy Spirit which took place at mid-morning in the account found in the Acts of the Apostles.
* Sext: 12 M. Another of the little hours, is Latin for the sixth hour. It takes place at midday when the sun is at its apex and one has become a bit weary and mindfulness is all but impossible. It is a time for earnest prayer to resist temptation, to keep from being overcome by the demands and pressures of life.
* None: 3 PM. Refers to the ninth hour, roughly mid-afternoon, and is the third of the little hours. It is a time to pray for perseverance, to pray for the strength to continue bearing fruit as one reaches one's prime and needs to keep going.
* Vespers: 6 PM. Celebrated at day's end, takes on the character of evening. The day is almost over, our work is done. There are appropriate hymns, psalms, readings and canticles for celebrating this vesper hour.
* Complines: Comes from the Latin which means to complete. It is the last common prayer before retiring for the night. It marks the completion of our day and heralds life's end. (1)

The repertoire of chants for the Divine Office consists of:

* The singing of the psalms
* Simple recitatives —cantillatio— of readings and prayers.
* Antiphons of invitatorio
* Hymns
* Antiphons sung before and after the psalms.
* Responsories
* Te Deum
* Chants of the Old and of the New Testament (Benedictus, Magnificat, Nunc Dimittis)


9 posted on 01/07/2006 5:41:24 PM PST by netmilsmom (God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
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To: TheCrusader; narses

>>This is a question which could only be posed by a non-Catholic, or a Catholic who knows nothing about his faith, (and I do mean absolutely nothing. I suspect the latter.<<

Non-Catholic.
Can't you tell?

We don't spew on their threads.

Not believing that the Tabernacle contains the actual Body of Christ, not knowing that the Mains of our Churches are to have sacred silence, makes for the idea that these events are appropriate.
Let alone a bastardization of our Liturgical Music.


10 posted on 01/07/2006 5:42:12 PM PST by netmilsmom (God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
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To: netmilsmom

I like your style.


11 posted on 01/07/2006 5:49:21 PM PST by steve86 (PRO-LIFE AND ANTI-GREED)
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To: P-Marlowe

Read it again and you will see that the Gregorian chant is one of our prayers.

Trust me, priest have done much more foolish things than this. They are employees and each have their own agenda. Unlike a Protestant church, when we don't like the leader, we can't vote him off the island.

Just because a Priest says it, because a Bishop says it, doesn't make it right and this won't be the first time that the traditionalists have taken a stand when some Ultra-Lib priest has pushed his agenda over the correct usage of our churches. The SSPX stood up in Grand Rapids a couple of years ago when a Budhist chant session was being held in one of our Cathedrals.

The Concert is taking place inside (read the article) the SSPX and FSSP are meeting OUTSIDE. Get real, Jan 8th, outside performance, Kansas City, right.

At this point you look tremendously uninformed and antagonistic for SOME reason. Could it be that this is a CATHOLIC thread?!?

Not Dogma, not preaching to Protestants, just a cheer for the traditionalists getting together.

Or perhaps you don't get that.


13 posted on 01/07/2006 6:18:00 PM PST by netmilsmom (God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
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To: netmilsmom; Religion Moderator
Could it be that this is a CATHOLIC thread?!?

Well excuse me, I thought this was a public forum. I didn't know there are "Catholic Only" threads.

Moderator please remove all posts that I made on this thread.

14 posted on 01/07/2006 6:22:34 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe

You can throw out the strawman of the "Public Forum" to your hearts content. Rude is rude and I am glad you realize it.

When you have no clue best to say nothing and not let people in on it.


15 posted on 01/07/2006 6:25:53 PM PST by netmilsmom (God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
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To: netmilsmom
"Non-Catholic. Can't you tell?"

I'm not so sure; he stated something about holding the event "outside the sanctuary". This is why I believe he is Catholic, at least to the extent he knows what the sanctuary is.

16 posted on 01/07/2006 6:26:41 PM PST by TheCrusader ("The frenzy of the mohammedans has devastated the Churches of God" Pope Urban II ~ 1097A.D.)
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To: BearWash

Thanks! I do not appreciate rude people.


17 posted on 01/07/2006 6:27:11 PM PST by netmilsmom (God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
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To: TheCrusader

Go to the P-Marlowe homepage.
Far from Catholic.


18 posted on 01/07/2006 6:27:49 PM PST by netmilsmom (God blessed me with a wonderful husband.)
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To: narses

So it is rap? Is its content blasphemous or simply aesthetically tasteless? As far as I can tell, prisoners adopted Gregorian chants in the style of the ghetto. Not a happy marriage, most likely, but aestheticism is not a Christian virtue.


19 posted on 01/07/2006 9:58:59 PM PST by Dumb_Ox (http://kevinjjones.blogspot.com)
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To: narses

Clickable link to the news story:

http://www.kansascitykansan.com/articles/2006/01/04/news/local/news13.txt


20 posted on 01/07/2006 11:28:11 PM PST by PAR35
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