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To: jo kus
And instead of going to the clear teaching of the Bible on justification by faith alone (Rom.4:5, Eph.2:9, Tit.3:5) you will run to the parables! Well, I had enjoyed your post on the sheep and the goats until this... Apparently, Christians had to wait for St. Paul to give the "real" Gospel...

No, but the Gospel of Grace is different then then three other Gospel messages preached, The Gospel of the Kingdom, the everlasting Gospel and the false Gospel that Satan uses to hide the truth.

Even from Paul alone, I can show that Paul does not teach "faith alone". Throw in Peter, John, James, and Jesus, the argument is over before it begins...

No, Paul does teach that a man is only saved by faith alone.

Works come after salvation to show that one is saved, it doesn't add anything to salvation that already has been acomplished.

Ye shall know them by their fruits (Matt.7:16).

The root (salvation) produces the tree which shows the fruit.

The fruit does not produce or aid the root.

You want a clue? Look to Romans 4:4, one verse removed from one you cited. That will explain what "works" mean to Paul. It is something done for pay. Nothing we do earns anything. Salvation is not earned. But Paul STILL commands we obey Christ. You misunderstand "doing something out of love" with "doing something for pay".

And what part of Rom.4:5 and Eph.2:9 do you not understand as it relates to salvation?

Rom.4:4 speaks of the fact that if one can do something for his salvation he can claim a debt owed, but salvation is a free gift and cannot be earned.

A Christian is supposed to do good works (so stop attempting to set up a straw man, as if we are arguing against good works), but the good works cannot add anything to salvation, they only show that one is saved.

If the person stops producing good works, that faith is dead and God will deal with it discipline and even death.

But, since he is a new creature in Christ, he will still be saved, he will lose any rewards that he might have had at the judgement seat of Christ (Rom.14:10, 2Cor.5:10, 1Cor.3:13-15)

Not by works of righteousness which we have done but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Ghost (Tit.3:5)

gospel Gospel. This great theme may be summarized as follows:

I. In itself the word Gospel means good news.

II. Four forms of the Gospel are to be distinguished"

(1) The Gospel of the kingdom. This is the good news that God purposes to set up on the earth, in fulfilment of the Davidic Covenant 2 Samuel 7:16 a kingdom, political, spiritual, Israelitish, universal, over which God's Son, David's heir, shall be King, and which shall be, for one thousand years, the manifestation of the righteousness of God in human affairs. (See Scofield "Matthew 3:2") .

Two preachings of this Gospel are mentioned, one past, beginning with the ministry of John the Baptist, continued by our Lord and His disciples, and ending with the Jewis rejection of the King. The other is yet future Matthew 24:14 during the great tribulation, and immediately preceding the coming of the King in glory.

(2) The Gospel of the grace of God. This is the good news that Jesus Christ, the rejected King, has died on the cross for the sins of the world, that He was raised from the dead for our justification, and that by Him all that believe are justified from all things. This form of the Gospel is described in many ways. It is the Gospel "of God" Romans 1:1 because it originates in His love; "of Christ" 2 Corinthians 10:14 because it flows from His sacrifice, and because He is the alone Object of Gospel faith; of the "grace of God" Acts 20:24 because it saves those whom the law curses; of "the glory" ; 1 Timothy 1:11; 2 Corinthians 4:4 because it concerns Him who is in the glory, and who is bringing the many sons to glory Hebrews 2:10 of "our salvation" Ephesians 1:13 because it is the "power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth" Romans 1:16 of "the uncircumcision" Galatians 2:7 because it saves wholly apart from forms and ordinances of "peace" Ephesians 6:15 because through Christ it makes peace between the sinner and God, and imparts inward peace.

(3) The everlasting Gospel Revelation 14:6. This is to be preached to the earth-dwellers at the very end of the great tribulation and immediately preceding the judgment of the nations Matthew 15:31. It is neither the Gospel of the kingdom, nor of grace. Though its burden is judgment, not salvation, it is good news to Israel and to those who, during the tribulation, have been saved ; Revelation 7:9-14; Luke 21:28; Psalms 96:11-13; Isaiah 35:4-10.

(4) That which Paul calls, "my Gospel" Romans 2:16. This is the Gospel of the grace of God in its fullest development, but includes the revelation of the result of that Gospel in the outcalling of the church, her relationships, position, privileges, and responsibility. It is the distinctive truth of Ephesians and Colossians, but interpenetrates all of Paul's writings.

III. There is "another Gospel" Galatians 1:6; 2 Corinthians 11:4 "which is not another," but a perversion of the Gospel of the grace of God, against which we are warned. It has many seductive forms, but the test is one--it invariably denies the sufficiency of grace alone to save, keep, and perfect, and mingles with grace some kind of human merit. In Galatia it was law, in Colosse fanaticism Colossians 2:18, etc. In any form its teachers lie under the awful anathema of God.

http://bible.crosswalk.com/Commentaries/ScofieldReferenceNotes/srn.cgi?book=re&chapter=014

8,342 posted on 06/10/2006 9:40:23 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? (Gal.4:16))
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To: fortheDeclaration
No, but the Gospel of Grace is different then then three other Gospel messages preached [Mat 25], The Gospel of the Kingdom, the everlasting Gospel and the false Gospel that Satan uses to hide the truth

Are you trying to say that what Jesus says in Matthew 25 is the false Gospel that Satan uses to hide the truth? I had always wondered why Protestants ignored Jesus teachings so much and prefered Paul's. They think Jesus teaches the false Gospel...

What more can I say to you?

I pray that God opens your eyes to the truth found in the entire Bible, not just your version of Romans and Galatians.

The rest, quite frankly, I didn't bother reading, after seeing your first sentence.

Regards

8,344 posted on 06/10/2006 10:16:17 AM PDT by jo kus (There is nothing colder than a Christian who doesn't care for the salvation of others - St.Crysostom)
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