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To: annalex; jo kus; HarleyD
FK: "Does God really teach us that there are matters too trivial to bother Him with?"

Well, there is a commandment not to use the name of God in vain. Remember Huck Finn praying for a fishing rod? It would seem reasonable for Huck to ask St. Andrew the Apostle, patron of fishermen, to see if his desire to go fishing was worth a miracle.

So unscriptural tradition teaches that there is a threshhold of importance that must be crossed in order for God to hear our prayer? If I'm stuck in rush hour and pray to get to work on time, I am taking the Lord's name in vain? This is amazing. Instead, I shouldn't bother God because He's too busy, but rather I should pray to the patron saint of traffic? Jesus taught us how to pray. He said to pray in this way "Our Father ...". Jesus never prayed to a dead person, He only prayed to the Father. Sounds like a plan to me.

8,269 posted on 06/09/2006 1:48:25 AM PDT by Forest Keeper
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To: Forest Keeper; annalex; jo kus
Instead, I shouldn't bother God because He's too busy, but rather I should pray to the patron saint of traffic?

LOL!!! Is there a patron saint of money??? How about chilli dogs??? I did a check and (at this moment) there are 5150 saints (not including the patron saints of football-the New Orleans Saints). You can pray to bee keepers, horseshoe makers, hunters, and pork butchers. There are saints for those who are afraid of wasps, rats, mad dogs, and the night. You can pray to the saints of oversleeping (if you want), desperate causes, cooking (something I need) and computer users (??? Saint Bill Gates???). Here's the list for those who would like to extend their roledex PATRON SAINTS INDEX

And I guess there is a patron saint of financial causes-Infant Jesus of Prague (sigh).

8,272 posted on 06/09/2006 4:23:18 AM PDT by HarleyD ("Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures" Luke 24:45)
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To: Forest Keeper
So unscriptural tradition teaches that there is a threshhold of importance that must be crossed in order for God to hear our prayer?

Not really, but some people feel moved to pray to a saint in some circumstances. This is how prayer to saints enriches, rather than curtails, our prayer life.

dead person

Here is that stupid canard again. Are angels dead? Christ said that men who undergo physical death are like angels and have everlasting life (Matthew 22:30-32). Moreover, a prayer to saints is a prayer to Christ, -- it was explained to you time and time again.

8,302 posted on 06/09/2006 4:23:17 PM PDT by annalex
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