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To: fortheDeclaration
Now if you are saved, then you cannot lost that salvation (Eph.4:30).

What exactly do you think that means? If we go a little further in Ephesians we learn that we are to do and not to do certain things as a baptized or regenerated man. Our baptism gives us the capacity to act with the grace made available to us through that first and glorious sacrament. To not grieve the Holy Spirit is to turn away from that saving grace He offers us in His love: IOW to cast off our salvation, to lose it. A gift given can be refused.

The race being run has to do with rewards not salvation. (1Cor.9:24-26)

What is the one reward that Paul preaches about? Gold? material wealth? power? Of course not, His only mission was to spread the good news of salvation, that is the only reward that matters. Also, if we read a bit further in to Paul's letter, we see that he writes in verse 27 of the same book and chapter: "No, I drive my body and train it, for fear that , after having preached ot others, I myself should be disqualified".

The final glorification has to do with our receiving our resurrection Body, not salvation (Rom.8).

We don't hope for what is assured, do we.

These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God, that ye may know that ye have eternal life (1Jn.5:13)

Belief surpasses mere intellectual ascent, the belief that John writes is dynamic, transcendent and not easy to attain, many are called, few are chosen.

8,265 posted on 06/08/2006 9:36:34 PM PDT by conservonator (Pray for those suffering)
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To: conservonator
Now if you are saved, then you cannot lost that salvation (Eph.4:30). What exactly do you think that means? If we go a little further in Ephesians we learn that we are to do and not to do certain things as a baptized or regenerated man. Our baptism gives us the capacity to act with the grace made available to us through that first and glorious sacrament. To not grieve the Holy Spirit is to turn away from that saving grace He offers us in His love: IOW to cast off our salvation, to lose it. A gift given can be refused.

That has to do with our walk not our salvation.

Our walk (growth) is for the purpose of gloryfying God in time and we get crowns for them (1Cor.3:13-16, 1Cor.9, 1Tim.2, Jam.1:12, Phil.4:1 1Pet.5, Rev.3,)

You are confusing positional sanctification with progressive sanctification.

The race being run has to do with rewards not salvation. (1Cor.9:24-26) What is the one reward that Paul preaches about? Gold? material wealth? power? Of course not, His only mission was to spread the good news of salvation, that is the only reward that matters. Also, if we read a bit further in to Paul's letter, we see that he writes in verse 27 of the same book and chapter: "No, I drive my body and train it, for fear that , after having preached ot others, I myself should be disqualified".

Disqualified from what?

From not getting the rewards he talks about in 1Cor.3-13-16, and the crowns he writes about in 1Cor.9, 2Tim.2 (before his death), Phil.4:1 etc.

The final glorification has to do with our receiving our resurrection Body, not salvation (Rom.8). We don't hope for what is assured, do we.

We don't hope for we don't see but if we hope for what we see not, then we with patience wait for it (Rom.8:23-25)

These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God, that ye may know that ye have eternal life (1Jn.5:13) Belief surpasses mere intellectual ascent, the belief that John writes is dynamic, transcendent and not easy to attain, many are called, few are chosen.

The belief that John writes about is for all men who have received Christ as their personal saviour and they should have the assurance that the are indeed new creatures in Christ (2Cor.5:17), born again (Jn.3:3) and therefore, heaven bound (Rom.8:29, 38-39)

8,340 posted on 06/10/2006 9:25:14 AM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? (Gal.4:16))
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