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To: Agrarian; jo kus
I have to agree with jk on this one -- while there are things in St. Augustine that are very friendly to a Calvinist-style monergism, I don't see even a thread of continuity even within the West.

Well it is interesting how we can read the church fathers differently just as we can read scripture. When I first heard of the Reformed theology I thought it was absurd and couldn't believe that it was ever taught by the Church. I did not study the Reformers for I felt that would taint my view. Instead I went back and read a number of the church fathers, scripture from the Reformed perspective, and studied church history. I was wrong.

The argument that the Reformed theology does not trace back to the early church just isn't believable in my mind simply because that is where I came to my understanding. The Reformers based many of their works upon the church fathers and constantly refers to them. The Orthodox minimizes these works and the Catholics ignores them. This goes back to my earlier argument that people pick and choose what to accept out of tradition to support their own conclusions. But there is a thread of continuity.

7,937 posted on 06/06/2006 5:39:23 PM PDT by HarleyD ("Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures" Luke 24:45)
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To: HarleyD; Agrarian; jo kus

"The Reformers based many of their works upon the church fathers and constantly refers to them. The Orthodox minimizes these works and the Catholics ignores them."

Which Fathers, Harley?


7,945 posted on 06/06/2006 7:30:14 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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