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To: jo kus; annalex; 1000 silverlings; HarleyD
Despite what you are trying to say, Luther and company were not the re-incarnation of Christ!

I'm not sure I remember saying anything like that. :) However, I do believe that the Reformation itself was caused by God.

Throughout the OT, despite the Jews's sinfulness, God NEVER had the prophets start a whole new religion. Christ fulfilled the Jewish religion. It's done.

Now come on, in Catholicism, nothing is ever REALLY done, is it? :)

Luther and company are quite similar to Korah. Wanting to place themselves in power over God's appointed instruments, as bad as they might have been in leading the sheep.

Good example, let's see what happened:

Num. 16:31-32 : 31 As soon as he [Moses] finished saying all this, the ground under them [Korah, et al.] split apart 32 and the earth opened its mouth and swallowed them, with their households and all Korah's men and all their possessions.

We're still Heeeeeere. :) Therefore, God must have fully ordained and commanded the Reformation.

7,875 posted on 06/06/2006 6:50:59 AM PDT by Forest Keeper
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To: Forest Keeper; annalex; 1000 silverlings; HarleyD
I'm not sure I remember saying anything like that. :) However, I do believe that the Reformation itself was caused by God.

Oh, we are back to "God causes sin" again...I forgot you guys believe that. More properly, God ALLOWED it to happen. Without it, the Council of Trent wouldn't have come about in its form, nor would the Counter Reformation. See? God brings about great good even out of evil!

Now come on, in Catholicism, nothing is ever REALLY done, is it? :)

We are told to persevere. Until the end. Take it up with the Sacred Scriptures that you purport to support.

We're still Heeeeeere. :) Therefore, God must have fully ordained and commanded the Reformation.

The Old Testament story of Korah is not meant to be taken as a literal example for future rebels to God's People. Does the Earth open up and swallow atheists today? Hitler? Stalin? The point of the story is to say that God WILL punish such people. In the context, God condemns such ring leaders to hell, eternal death. I'd rethink your logic.

Regards

7,877 posted on 06/06/2006 7:02:32 AM PDT by jo kus (There is nothing colder than a Christian who doesn't care for the salvation of others - St.Crysostom)
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