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To: jo kus; stripes1776; HarleyD; Kolokotronis
3. The baptism of children is administered, not for the remission of sins, but as a sign of acceptance by the Church to enable men to reach the Kingdom of Heaven

That sounds Orthodox to me. No wonder some call us "semi-Pelagian!"

We certainly do not believe that we are born with some inherited "guilt." We do baptize for the remission of sins, for those who have sinned (adults).

The positive solution on the nature of original sin was noted at the Council of Trent – the death of the soul...

We believe the souls are wounded, not dead, and in need of a Healer.

7,832 posted on 06/05/2006 8:06:46 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50
We believe the souls are wounded, not dead, and in need of a Healer.

We believe that a person is born without the ability to achieve heaven whatsoever without Baptism or at least Baptism by desire because we are born without supernatural grace. This doesn't mean we have a "dead" soul that requires God to resurrect it! And it certainly doesn't mean we are totally depraved. But without God's abiding presence, we can do nothing good. In a sense, we are spiritually dead, and only become alive with God's presence within us.

Regards

7,859 posted on 06/06/2006 5:38:07 AM PDT by jo kus (There is nothing colder than a Christian who doesn't care for the salvation of others - St.Crysostom)
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