[HarleyD]

Luther called himself and his followers Evangelicals. I don't believe Calvin could ever be mistaken for an Evangelical Lutheran....They didn't read Arminius first and then conclude that he was right. Arminius was simply the first we have a record of who came to this conclusion,

That may be true about Luther, but Joseph Arminius was a Presbyterian if I'm not mistaken. The Remonstrance was in direct opposition to the heresy arising in the Reformed churches. While Luther lead the Reformation, it was Calvin who put together the doctrine of the Reformers. There may have been others who sided with Arminius in the Reformed churches but so what? That is similar to saying there were people who sided with Pelegius in the Catholic Church.

We all write quickly on these discussion boards without editing.

Yes you're right. I certainly wasn't clear and accurate (and I was in a hurry). Let me try again...

Today there are precious few Reformed Protestants. Reformers believe that God saves people through His grace alone. Most Protestants hold a Catholic version of man's free will requiring man to "cooperate" or to have "faith". It this latter instance, many have rejected the notion of sola gratia.

[stripes1776]

Joseph Arminius was a Presbyterian if I'm not mistaken.

Not a Presbyterian, but he was a Dutch Calvinist who was educated in Calvinist Geneva, Switzerland. He moved back to Amsterdam and was ordained. Later he became a professor of theology. Over time, he moved away from many Calvinsist ideas.

The Remonstrance was in direct opposition to the heresy arising in the Reformed churches.

The Remonstrance was a declaration of Arminius' views issued by his followers after his death. It departed from orthodox Calvinism on serveral points.

[kosta50]

Reformers believe that God saves people through His grace alone

We believe that too — except He does that at the end of ours lives, based on what we have done with them.