You have stated this nonsense in the past. God does not change His mind. You can not be un-baptized. Once adopted, He will not disown you. But, that does not mean that you have a sure ticket to heaven if, at the end of your life, you say I "do it my way," if in your heart you are Forest Keeper and not Chirst-like.
Then why are you confirming my nonsense as true? You say that Baptism is for the remission of sins, which must be done before one can go to heaven. But upon the next sin, that status is lost, but for a further work of man. According to you, God DOES send some of His adopted children, actual children of God (John 1:12), right to hell. But at the same time, you say this is not disowning them? This puts 100% of the power (and destiny of man) into his own hands. You said God doesn't disown, therefore, it is only man's free will decisions that determine eternal destiny. This just isn't Biblical.
The idea that "once saved" you can sin boldly, confident that — as God's elect — you cannot perish, is precisely where Satan's great deception becomes obvious.
That does sound like quite a deception, which is why I'm glad that I don't know anyone here who believes in that in the way you present it. Scripture does not say that we can go on sinning freely after salvation and everyone here knows it.
FK: "...how is this guy [someone who is in every way a Christian but has not been Baptized] any different from someone who has been baptized?"
The former is a sinner pretending to be a Christian.
So all the martyrs who were Baptized by blood at the end were all pretenders their whole lives?
Baptism for the remission of existing sins, if there are any, a condition which must be met before we are adopted by the Holy Spirit. Since infants have no sin of their own, their adoption does not require remission of sins.
Adults on the other hand will sin, which is why we confess and and seek continual remission of sins in order to remain under grace. For if we don't ask for forgiveness, there will be no forgiveness. That is our decision. We know God's rule: no repentance, no forgiveness. repentance must come from the heart, so yes it is in our hands. Very much so. We are free to cleave to God or to embrace satan.
According to you, God DOES send some of His adopted children, actual children of God (John 1:12), right to hell
As an Orthodox Christian I would never, ever say that God sends anyone to hell.
Kosta: The former is a sinner pretending to be a Christian
FK: So all the martyrs who were Baptized by blood at the end were all pretenders their whole lives? No, FK, you are changing the subject. The man in your example was not martyred. I merely stated that a man who lives a Christian life would pretend to be a Christian if he refused or didn't seek to be baptized.
No true Christian will refuse baptism. NO true Christian will live a life in Christ and avoid baptism. On the other hand, someone who did not live a life as a Christian but whose heart was converted and he dies for Christ, he is baptized in blood and saved. Dying for Christ requires more faith than any of us probably have — put together!
Our status as children of God is not lost when we sin. We are not considered righteous in God's eyes when we disinherit ourselves from the Kingdom of Heaven (I have already given you these verses a dozen times), but that doesn't mean that God will no longer forgive us:
"If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness." 1 John 1:8-9
For if we died with Him, We shall also live with Him. If we endure,[NOT, WHEN we endure!] We shall also reign with Him. If WE deny Him, He ALSO will deny us. If we are faithless, He remains faithful"; 2 Tim 2:11-13
This fits nicely with what Kosta says later - that God sends no one to hell. We send ourselves their by rejecting Him. But even if we sin, we know that we have an advocate who intercedes for us - as long as we turn to Him in contrition and ask for forgiveness.
You said God doesn't disown, therefore, it is only man's free will decisions that determine eternal destiny. This just isn't Biblical.
No one said "it is only man's free will decisions that determine eternal destiny". It is a cooperation of two wills. As long as ours agrees with God's Will for us, we will enter the Kingdom. If we reject God's Will for us, we will not. But God sends us graces to move our wills and desires to DO God's will (cf Phil 2:12-13)
That [The idea that "once saved" you can sin boldly, confident that — as God's elect — you cannot perish] does sound like quite a deception, which is why I'm glad that I don't know anyone here who believes in that in the way you present it
Sure you do. Once you have declared yourselves elect, nothing that you do can effect that. Thus, sin to your heart's content! Why not? Party it up! 'Cause God's gonna cover you anyways... Pick up that cross??? Take the narrow path? Crucify one's flesh of your passions? Who put those verses in the Bible??? That's just filler, huh? I guess Jesus had some extra time to kill with all of those teachings about obeying the Law and the Commandments and taking the narrow path - since you can say "Lord, Lord, I BELIEVE" on March 12, 1985, and be saved no matter what!!! WHOOPIE!
Nothing like self-delusion...
Regards