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To: jo kus
Experiencing God in contemplative prayer, knowing the unknoweable, is contact with God Himself, not just with a Hypostatis

The Eastern Fathers would disagree. We experience God's uncreated energies, the uncreated Light of Tabor, not God's Essence. We are in His presence all the time, jo. His nature is beyond our reach.

7,566 posted on 06/01/2006 4:32:36 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50
The Eastern Fathers would [Experiencing God in contemplative prayer, knowing the unknoweable, is contact with God Himself, not just with a Hypostatis] disagree. We experience God's uncreated energies, the uncreated Light of Tabor, not God's Essence. We are in His presence all the time, jo. His nature is beyond our reach.

Each and every person of the Trinity consists of the totality of God's essence. Thus, if we contact the Son, we contact His essence - albeit, we do so in an incomprehensible manner. Each person is the reality, that divine substance, essence or nature, which alone is the beginning of all things, apart from which nothing else can be found. This reality is neither generated nor generated, nor proceeding, but it is the Father who generates, the Son who is generated, and the Holy Spirit who proceeds, so that there be distinction beteen the persons, but UNITY in nature. The Father gives His FULL SUBSTANCE to the Son. Thus, when the Son comes to us, He is not "merely" energy, but He ALSO is substance, the essence of God - since God is not separable nor does He consist of parts that are separable.

My brain is starting to hurt. It is much easier discussing the faulty position of Sola Fide!

Regards

7,570 posted on 06/01/2006 4:56:05 PM PDT by jo kus (There is nothing colder than a Christian who doesn't care for the salvation of others - St.Crysostom)
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