[HarleyD]

"You mean that beats out repentance, faith, and charity? I can't wait to see all of those people rewarded on the last day for their understanding of God's sovereignty in their salvation."

Unless one understands the sovereignty of God it is impossible to fully understand repentance, faith and charity. It is though God that we are capable of repenting; that we even have faith; and that we do good works.

[kosta50]

Unless one understands the sovereignty of God it is impossible to fully understand repentance, faith and charity

If that is so, then the Reformed theology must also teach that He is the author of good and evil, of repentance and sin, of faith and atheism, of charity and intolarance, of mercy and cruelty as well!

What can Love do but offer love? There is no evil in pure Love. But if your theology has merit, we must assume that Love somehow created evil as well. That is a twisted theology I must admit.

For, if you are right, our sinfulness is olso His doing, our slavery to sin is God's plan, giving Him "credit" for our Fall and holding Him accountable for it!

We "semi-Pelagians" blame man for the corruption of God's Creation. By giving us the freedom to accpet His gifts or to reject them, to do good with them or to do evil, He did create chaos as the OT says, but what's the alternative that you propose: God created some that He loves and saves and some that He loves and destroys? You must be joking.

[Campion]

It is though God that we are capable of repenting; that we even have faith; and that we do good works.

I agree with this, but agreeing with it won't get me to heaven.

Unless one understands the sovereignty of God it is impossible to fully understand repentance, faith and charity.

You don't have to understand it. You only have to practice it.