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To: George W. Bush; Forest Keeper; Agrarian; Kolokotronis; annalex; jo kus
Much like Baptists on this then. We also would like to believe it but can't support it from scripture. So we hope but don't promise. God is still sovereign and He has chosen to withhold certain information

And this is one instance where we are all on the same sheet of music. :)

Early 2nd century AD Roman tombstones indicate that Christians baptized their infat children by calling them believers. Bishop Eusebius (the first Church historian) specifically instructed Christians to baptize as soon as possible and not wait 8 days or 40 days as some Orthodox parishes do.

All this indicates that early Christians preferred to err on the side of the uncertainty and that there was a strongly entrenched belief that unbaptized children may not be saved since it is Baptism that brings one into the Church and unto Christ.

I am not sure what the current Orthodox teaching is on how soon one should baptize. Certainly, one cannot go wrong by baptizing into the Holy Trinity.

6,909 posted on 05/19/2006 3:22:35 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; MarMema
And this is one instance where we are all on the same sheet of music. :)

Well, there may be more. We Baptists insist on baptist by immersion. But we only dunk once. I have to admire the thoroughness of the Orthdox on this one. Take no chances, I always say.

You are no doubt aware that the KJV or the old Reformation bibles (Geneva, Bishops) or some of these modern ones like Analytical-Literal or English Majority Text version are all based upon the texts preserved by the Eastern church, known in the West as Received Text, Majority Text, Byzantize Text. Unfortunately, the other modernist western bibles are based on Textus Vaticanus and Textus Sinaiticus, versions with so many flaws and inconsistencies that their problems as authentic scripture cannot be discussed briefly.

So many of us do, in fact, have a bit in common with the Orthodox, via Erasmus and the Textus Receptus, the Reformation translators at Geneva and the King James translators.

Perhaps someday we Baptists can persuade you on baptizing only believers but that is another discussion. ; )
6,912 posted on 05/19/2006 5:53:09 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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