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To: Forest Keeper; jo kus
Kosta, I thought you have said that in Orthodoxy, an unbaptized baby who dies is not free of the fallen nature and would be technically lost forever

This is not what the Orthodox believe and I don't believe I would have said it that way. We simply do not speculate, knowing that God is not limited in any way to save by His grace whomever He wishes. We take the "Thy will be done" very seriously and literally. We can say that because we believe that God is merciful and just and that whatever happens to the unbaptized babies is merciful and just even if we can't see it that way.

6,862 posted on 05/18/2006 4:05:07 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Forest Keeper
We simply do not speculate [on infant baptism or lack of it], knowing that God is not limited in any way to save by His grace whomever He wishes. We take the "Thy will be done" very seriously and literally. We can say that because we believe that God is merciful and just and that whatever happens to the unbaptized babies is merciful and just even if we can't see it that way.

Exactly what the Latins teach! Earlier, there was the teaching of Limbo, but we now consider the above to be more appropriate.

Regards

6,864 posted on 05/18/2006 4:32:52 PM PDT by jo kus (For love is of God; and everyone that loves is born of God, and knows God. 1Jn 4:7)
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To: kosta50; jo kus
FK: "Kosta, I thought you have said that in Orthodoxy, an unbaptized baby who dies is not free of the fallen nature and would be technically lost forever."

This is not what the Orthodox believe and I don't believe I would have said it that way. We simply do not speculate, knowing that God is not limited in any way to save by His grace whomever He wishes.

Yes, that's why I used the word "technically". I know you believe God can do whatever He wants, whenever He wants. I just thought that absent a special dispensation by God, you thought that an unbaptized baby does not go to heaven.

7,091 posted on 05/23/2006 11:17:58 PM PDT by Forest Keeper
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