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To: annalex
What were called in were spirit filled men (elders/pastors) to administer oil, a sign of the Holy Spirit and a form of medience of the ancient times Why not just say, the priests were called in to annoint the sick, -- they still do, -- and call a spade a spade?

Because they were not 'priests', they were elders or Pastors.

That same Greek word is translated in the Rheims as 'Ancients' in some places and 'senior' in 1Pe.5:1 and Rev.4:4.

They were coming together in someone else's home to worship and fellowship. They were coming for the Eucharist. Read the letter, please. There is no "worship and fellowship"; Paul spells out the meaning of the Eucharist in this passage.

That chapter (11) has to do with the Lord's supper and those abusing it.

There is alot more going on then just the Lord's supper.

That chapter deals with the authority of the man over the women (vs 1-11).

The letter of Corinthians has to do with a baby church that needed to grow up.

you do nothing to explain what Peter means when he speaks of the priesthood of the believers He does not. He speaks of royal priesthood. "Ofg the believers is your spin, for which you show no scriptural justification.

It says that 'you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood' (vs.9).

That applies to every believer.

Unless you are saying that the Priest is in a different race.

What it discusses is the priestly class that existed in the Old Testament No, he is not. He is explaining what Christian priests are.

No, he is referring to all Christians.

He is not saying anything about any special clergy.

Footnote from the NAS,

The pregoatives of ancient Israel mentioned here are more fully applied to the Christian people 'a chosen race' indicates their divine election 'a royal priesthood' to serve and worship God in Christ, thus continuing the priestly functions of this life, passiona and resurrection, 'a holy nation' reserved for God, a people he claims for his own in virture of their baptism into his death and resurrection

That is a comment from a Roman Catholic Bible.

That passage is not speaking of any special class of clergy, but all Christians.

6,473 posted on 05/12/2006 5:33:03 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (Am I therefore become your enemy because I tell you the truth? (Gal.4:16))
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To: fortheDeclaration
they were not 'priests', they were elders or Pastors

Insist you. A priest is one offering a sacrament. Annointing is a sacrament. So, they were priests at least in that context. Certainly not pastors, the word for that is "poimenos" (1 Peter 5:4). I have no clue why Jerome translated 1 Peter 5:1 as "Seniores". Good question. In Apocalypse that seems justified by context.

That chapter (11) has to do with the Lord's supper and those abusing it

My point exactly.

Priest is in a different race

In a way, he is, as priesthood is an indelible mark.

That passage is not speaking of any special class of clergy, but all Christians.

I always said that NAS is a Protestant Fifth Column in the bosom of the Church. It would certainly not be the only Catholic Bible with atrocious commentaries (and horrible translations). The text of Hebrews 5 does not agree with the commentary, nor with you. Note that the subject is identified not merely as "priest" but as "high priest", so it cannot refer to the priesthood of all believers. He is also said to offer gifts and sacrifices, again something reserved to ordained priests.

Come to think of it, is the commentary even to Hebrews? it looks like it can better apply to 1 Peter, where he speaks about the chosen race.

6,517 posted on 05/12/2006 7:53:01 PM PDT by annalex
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