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To: Forest Keeper; jo kus
So I'm pretty close then? I thought that you believe that deeds grow one's faith. "Faith without works is dead", etc. If that is right, then it is contrasted against my view that deeds (pleasing to God) are a natural fruit of a faith that is already there

No, we believe that faith moves you to do deeds in God's name. A faith that does not move you to do God's work is dead faith.

PS I'll let you in on a little secret: you can't please God, for He is not subject to pleasure.

6,153 posted on 05/10/2006 3:24:09 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; Forest Keeper; jo kus
you can't please God, for He is not subject to pleasure.

Hebrews 11:6  
But without faith it is impossible to please him:
for he that cometh to God must believe that he is,
and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

6,181 posted on 05/10/2006 6:44:36 PM PDT by Full Court (www.justbible.com)
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To: kosta50; jo kus; Full Court
FK: "I thought that you believe that deeds grow one's faith."

No, we believe that faith moves you to do deeds in God's name. A faith that does not move you to do God's work is dead faith.

I would also say that faith produces good deeds, and faith comes only from God. So, our difference would be to what degree you believe faith is man-generated. My view is to say 0%.

6,620 posted on 05/14/2006 7:47:09 PM PDT by Forest Keeper
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