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To: jo kus; Forest Keeper
Thanks for the information on Honorius I

You are welcome. I hope this helped clarify an otherwise not such a clear-cut issue. One can only speculate as to what Pope Honorius I believed, but it is an altogether different issue as to what he did in his office, acting as +Peter. Obviously, the Council had very little sympathy for a pope who failed to oppose a heresy, but this is easier said in retrospect (the Council was held 40 years after Honorius I died) than it was for the contemporaries.

Let us not forget that St. Maximos the Confessor sought refuge with Pope Honorius I for yet another heresy embraced by the Bishop of Constantinople, and held the same Pope in high regard as a protector of Orthodoxy.

One must also understand the desire by many in the Church to find a way to re-unite monophysites with Chalcedonian (orthodox) beliefs, and monothelism seemed to them as a theologically defensible theology. Unfortunately for them, they were wrong.

One must also understand that while Constantinople or New Rome, only second in dignity to Old Rome, was the site of many heresies by its bishops. The same cannot be said for the bishops of Rome.

One must not confuse papal personal opinions and even (un)civil or outright sinful conduct with the execution of their official duties, and have steadfast defense of the Orthodox Faith. We Orhtodox must never forget that many of the greatest Eastern Fathers (+John Chrysostomos and St. Maximos the Confessor among the top ones) sought and received such defense and support from the bishops of Rome, when large portions of Christendom seemingly fell into heresy.

It is incorrect to interpret current Eastern Orthodox non-communion with the Bishop of Rome as non-recognition of the office. We do not share communion because the Apostolic Faith has two different interpretations and beliefs on several key issues that have not yet been resolved and will require an Ecumenical Council to do so, papal jurisdictional issues notwithstanding.

5,849 posted on 05/07/2006 5:09:01 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50
One must also understand the desire by many in the Church to find a way to re-unite monophysites with Chalcedonian (orthodox) beliefs, and monothelism seemed to them as a theologically defensible theology. Unfortunately for them, they were wrong.

I am not up to speed on the Coptic-Catholic discussions regarding monothelitism, but I had heard that much of the problem was over misunderstanding of definitions, rather than an outright heresy, a la Arianism. I'd have to do more research on that one, as I don't really know where the Coptics stand viz a viz the Catholic or the Orthodox communions.

It is incorrect to interpret current Eastern Orthodox non-communion with the Bishop of Rome as non-recognition of the office. We do not share communion because the Apostolic Faith has two different interpretations and beliefs on several key issues that have not yet been resolved and will require an Ecumenical Council to do so, papal jurisdictional issues notwithstanding.

Well said. I think it is only a matter of time before we have another Ecumenical Council to attempt resolution on the issues of the filioque and exactly the Petrine office in regards to the Church catholic (small "c").

Regards

5,876 posted on 05/08/2006 5:04:00 AM PDT by jo kus (I will run the way of thy commandments, when thou shalt enlarge my heart...Psalm 119:32)
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