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To: Forest Keeper
I do not think that the NT was written "independently" because God knew what concepts He wanted covered, and He knew how He wanted all of the books to work together. So it happened, I do not think it was luck.

From God's point of view, of course, there is no luck. But this is based on faith, is it not? We take the Church's word that it has presented to us God's Word. There is no scientific proof. From man's point of view, Luke did not get together with Matthew so that they could get the red letters right on Jesus' words.

I don't know anything about burning bosoms :), but I know that the Spirit is leading me when I think or do something that matches what the scripture teaches.

Do you realize you can be arguing in a circle? The Bible can "teach" a lot of things, according to heretics....

On occasion, I also find it helpful to consider common practices of the time.

Well, that makes more sense than relying on yourself.

But I thought that at least one Pope was declared a heretic, presumably for teaching falsely.

No Pope taught falsely. A Pope that does not firmly declare heresy when he sees it is not the same as one who teaches it actively.

The Bible can. Adam sinned sometime in the first 130 years of his life. :

Then I stand corrected - presuming that the Bible is talking about his entire life and not counting the years after the fall alone.

Much of what is considered good science at the time has gone on to be proven wrong.

I don't see how Genesis 1 and 2 can be reconciled by a strictly scientific, historical point of view. They clearly contradict. That is a big reason why I consider the first three chapters as allegorical or spiritual.

Regards

5,842 posted on 05/07/2006 4:36:20 PM PDT by jo kus (I will run the way of thy commandments, when thou shalt enlarge my heart...Psalm 119:32)
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To: jo kus
[On the Bible coming together in its finished form] From God's point of view, of course, there is no luck. But this is based on faith, is it not?

A faith based on scripture, "Yes", a faith based on a group of men's say-so, "No".

From man's point of view, Luke did not get together with Matthew so that they could get the red letters right on Jesus' words.

YES, and I would go on to say this is true even from God's POV. This goes back to what I was alluding to before: that just reading the whole Bible leaves one with a sense that this could not have been concocted by any group of men on their own. I truly see self-evidence, apart from quoting scripture, that the Bible must be from God. It's TOO perfect! :) We KNOW that Jesus didn't pick His disciples based on their brain power, right? They couldn't have come up with this stuff on their own, just from a logical viewpoint.

FK: "... but I know that the Spirit is leading me when I think or do something that matches what the scripture teaches."

Do you realize you can be arguing in a circle? The Bible can "teach" a lot of things, according to heretics....

You and I have great differences in theology, but I really doubt we would have much disagreement on what God would consider a good work. I would be happy to respond to a hypo if you are thinking of one.

6,220 posted on 05/11/2006 1:43:32 AM PDT by Forest Keeper
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