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To: annalex; Forest Keeper; jo kus; Agrarian
Eos" is a very common word that is used several times with the clear meaning "even unto, but possibly also after" by Matthew himself. In 1:25 his focus is on the miraculous birth, so he speaks on what happened before the birth. I don't see what is so troubling to you, other that late-Protestant machinations

That he (+Josph) knew her not till she bore a Child. This could be interpreted that Jospeh did not have sexual relations with Mary until after she had a child, or -- as we understand -- up to the point when she conceived and had a Child -- i.e. asserting her virginity. But we assume that sexual relations did not exist after the Birth because there is nothing in the NT that asserts that they did or didn't.

We know she was a virgin when she said to the angel that she knows "not a man." Besides, she was bethroded to +Jospeh, and people did not, as a matter of habit, have pre-marital sex in those days because it was something she could have died for.

Now, what is troubling is that the Apostles specifically assert her virginity prior to Conception and Birth, but remain ambiguous as to what might have happened afterwards.

5,526 posted on 05/03/2006 4:57:47 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50
the Apostles specifically assert her virginity prior to Conception and Birth, but remain ambiguous as to what might have happened afterwards.

They simply don't say anything because the focus of the canonical scripture is Christ and not Mary.

5,538 posted on 05/03/2006 5:16:00 PM PDT by annalex
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To: kosta50; HarleyD; 1000 silverlings; Forest Keeper; jo kus; annalex; blue-duncan; qua
In addition to the valid points you've brought up, I think we need to ask ourselves why would it be necessary to venerate Mary as co-redeemer? What does this have to do with the salvic work of Christ?

The answer is -- nothing. Mary was in need of a Savior as much as anyone, as Harley referenced.

An excellent book is "The Cult of the Virgin Mary: Psychological Origins" by Michael P. Carroll. Carroll draws clear comparisons between the veneration of Mary and the pagan worship of the goddess Cybele.

5,543 posted on 05/03/2006 5:38:01 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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