I've missed most of today's discussion, but this line certainly stands out.
If all men have been redeemed, then all men have been judged innocent by virture of Christ's perfect and complete atonement, and thus no one has been in hell for at least 2,000 years.
You've become a unitarian, jo kus.
You've become a unitarian, jo kus.
You are jumping to conclusions, ma'am. I said we Catholics define redemption differently then you. We do not equate redemption with salvation. They are two different things. Thus, we CAN say that all men are redeemed but all men are not saved for eternal life. I firmly believe that hell exists and it is occupied - by whom, I don't know, but it is not empty.
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