To: Dr. Eckleburg; Kolokotronis; kosta50; jo kus
As you know, I can care less what Calvin thought, however, this verse of 1 Peter is mistranslated so that etethesan is made to refer to the stumbling, when in fact it is referring to the Word. "Etethesan" is simply "set upon", not "appointed".
kai lithos proskommatos kai petra skandalou oi proskoptousin to logo apeithoundes eis o kai etethesan And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of scandal, to them who stumble at the word, whereunto also they are set.
(1 Peter 2:8)
The verse cannot be used to "prove" a predestination to stumble.
To: annalex; Dr. Eckleburg; Kolokotronis; kosta50; jo kus; stripes1776
The verse, quite obviously, means that both heretics and faithful are put upon the same, one and only, rock of the Word. A heretic, for example, Calvin, is not sitting on a different rock of his own church, but rather he is a Catholic who fell off the only Rock there is. I can understand why King James's scribes would be tempted to convolute the meaning.
To: annalex; Dr. Eckleburg; Kolokotronis; kosta50; jo kus
If my Greek lexicon is correct, "etethesan" is a variation of the root word "tithemi" which means to "to set, fix establish, to set forth, to establish, ordain". That being said and given your interpretation, how would you interpret:
"...to them who stumble at the word, whereunto also they are set." (1 Peter 2:8)
Against the following contrasting verses:
"But ye [are] a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light: Which in time past [were] not a people, but [are] now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy. 1Pe 2:9-10
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04/17/2006 10:08:06 AM PDT by
HarleyD
("A man's steps are from the Lord, How then can man understand his way?" Prov 20:24 (HNV))
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