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To: Forest Keeper; Kolokotronis; kosta50
I knew that the Orthodox do not believe in original sin. However, I don't understand how God can have foreknowledge of sin, create Adam as He did anyway with the full power to create him otherwise, and then say that God did not ordain it.

I am certain that I read recently that the early Protestant reformers, that would include Luther and Calvin, made the same distinction that Kolokotronis makes between God's foreknowledge and God's will. All the Protestant churches I am familiar with do make this distinction and do not ascribe the creation or ordaining of evil to God.

4,635 posted on 04/12/2006 6:54:44 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: stripes1776; Forest Keeper; HarleyD; AlbionGirl; qua
I am certain that I read recently that the early Protestant reformers, that would include Luther and Calvin, made the same distinction that Kolokotronis makes between God's foreknowledge and God's will.

LOL. Broaden your reading materials; your statement couldn't be farther from the truth.

DOUBLE OR NOTHING: MARTIN LUTHER'S DOCTRINE OF PREDESTINATION

THE ETERNAL PREDESTINATION OF GOD and THE SECRET PROVIDENCE OF GOD by John Calvin

CALVIN ON THE SOVEREIGNTY OF GOD by John Murray

A BRIEF DECLARATION OF PREDESTINATION by Theodore Beza

ELECTION AND REPROBATION by Free Presbyterian Church

"Christ is a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed. But ye are a chosen generation..." -- 1 Peter 2:8-9A

4,636 posted on 04/12/2006 11:52:52 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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