FK to Kosta: You use words like "condemn" because you place a duty on God to love everyone equally, and provide for everyone's salvation, if it his/her choice. I do not see that in the Bible at all
You must be the only one who does not find that in the Bible. The Bible makes it very clear that God is a Judge. Judges judge, either by pardoning or condemning. Those who are "saved" are saved from all eternity according to your theology, and those who are not saved (i.e. "lost") are, by God's decision (therefore judgment), destined to perdition.
That would strongly suggest to anyone, lawyers notwithstanding :),that those who are "lost" from all eternity have been judged to perdition.
I am not placing blame or crying "foul" but simply stating that, looking at your theology, those who will be lost (i.e. not-saved) have no reason to seek anything from God because none will be given. Their fate has been sealed from all eternity. I am glad you see "justice" in that, because I don't.
Now, I know that AG thinks my theology stinks, but even I can say that God's justice is mercy and not condemnation, and frankly I see no mercy in yourn theology dear friend.
You must be the only one who does not find that in the Bible.
Oh, I don't know, I'll bet you a nickel that I can find some takers of this view on this thread. :)
The Bible makes it very clear that God is a Judge. Judges judge, either by pardoning or condemning. Those who are "saved" are saved from all eternity according to your theology, and those who are not saved (i.e. "lost") are, by God's decision (therefore judgment), destined to perdition.
Yes, God is a judge. In my understanding, what you are describing here is double predestination. I do hold this view. God made the universe and it is His to do with in any way that pleases Him. He is the Potter, and we are His creations. We have no standing to object or complain about anything we may "think" sounds unfair. However, as has been pointed out to me, double predestination is not a majority Protestant view. (On a trivial matter, judges actually do not have the power of pardon, that power is held by the executive.)
I am not placing blame or crying "foul" but simply stating that, looking at your theology, those who will be lost (i.e. not-saved) have no reason to seek anything from God because none will be given. Their fate has been sealed from all eternity. I am glad you see "justice" in that, because I don't.
I am eternally thankful to God almighty that He doesn't give a wit about my sense of justice. :) God's sense of justice is perfect, definitionally. Man's is flawed beyond any comparison. If God ever adopted my sense of justice, then I would be toast. :) You are correct that my view is that those whom God will pass over, will be passed over, and there is nothing that can be done. I am thankful that God chose to save some, BTW in contradiction to our sense of justice. Such an act by Him results in the glory of Himself and His sovereignty.
Now, I know that AG thinks my theology stinks, but even I can say that God's justice is mercy and not condemnation, and frankly I see no mercy in your theology dear friend.
If you want to know what AG thinks of your theology, just ask her! :) I have read every post so far, and I have never heard her say anything like that.
When you say that God's justice is mercy then it is clear that we look at these concepts completely differently. I would say that God has mercy IN SPITE OF His justice. Justice is getting what you deserve. Mercy is NOT getting what you deserve. IIRC, the third pillar of this saying is that grace is GETTING what you do not deserve. These are all very different, but believe me, my theology is packed with God's mercy. :)