[Cvengr]

In regard to the human nature vd humanity, the first Adam suffered the fall from his sin and the consequences were also passed genetically to all seed of the first Adam. Of special note is the second Adam, also human and pure, qualified to become the perfect sacrifice in response to the sin of man.

All humans since the 1st Adam other than the second Adam have been composed therefore with a fallen nature, an old sin nature, a natural man, that touches upon both the body and the soul, with a spirit that requires regeneration prior to being alive.

We therefore stand condemned before we have ever been saved, in regards to our thinking and our bodies.

[kosta50]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Why not just say: we were made perfect; now we are not perfect. Damaged, broken, incomplete, less than before? Even Christ calls us sick in need of a physician, and not dead. We can be cured, healed, restored, repaired, salvaged, or saved from complete destruction, true death, irreparable damage.

We are not striving to become "super men" but simply to be retored what our intended and created nature was and can be one day.