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To: jo kus
I asked "Did Christ die for the remission of the sin of the entire world"?

Warped? Christ taught that EVERYONE was our neighbor and that the Gospel was to go to all men - to help ALL men KNOW more about God.

The reward (loss) of eternal life.

That makes YOU the determinant of your salvation.


3,438 posted on 03/10/2006 12:16:39 PM PST by HarleyD ("A man's steps are from the Lord, How then can man understand his way?" Prov 20:24 (HNV))
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To: HarleyD
It simply is that God's Son didn't die for everyone.

The next day John saw Jesus coming unto him and said, Behold the Lamb of God, who takes away the sin of the world John 1:29

he {Jesus} is the reconciliation for our sins, and not for ours only, but also for [the sins of] the whole world 1 John 2:2

Christ died for the sin of all mankind, just as Adam's one sin effected all mankind (romans 5). We both agree that not everyone will utilize this incredible gift.

1 Cor 3:13

Not sure what you are getting at, brother.

God said, "Believe in the Lord Jesus and you shall be saved

The word "Believe" implies an ongoing activity, not just a one-time declaration. Thus, if we continue WALKING IN FAITH, yes, we will be saved for eternal life.

God said He'll keep me safe. "My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me;

Yes, in retrospect, the elect will have followed the Master's voice UNTIL THE END.

I believe God's word.

The "problem" is that we disagree what it says, don't we? Christ had plenty of foresight when He appointed an authoritative body to bind and loosen, didn't He?

Regards

3,442 posted on 03/10/2006 5:44:59 PM PST by jo kus (I have set before you life and death, blessing and cursing; therefore CHOOSE life - Deut 30:19)
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To: HarleyD; Forest Keeper; jo kus; Kolokotronis
I believe God's word

First, what you call a word of God is one of the versions that has become a word of God after tradition of men. Second, you select isolated verses you want to believe. Third, you make up your own interpretations.

But, let me ask you: if God were to reveal that there is no salvation for us, because mankind has not repeneted and He now decided to cause another great flood, except without Noah, would you still glorify Him? Would you still love Him?

3,445 posted on 03/10/2006 6:13:32 PM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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