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To: kosta50; jo kus; HarleyD; Kolokotronis
FK: "In John 19:30, what does Christ mean by "It is finished"? I read that the Greek word means "paid in full", as opposed to potentially."

It means that God's redemptive work in time has been accomplished, completed, finished. That God, through Divine Economy, made our salvation possible.

So, if after God's redemptive work is fully accomplished and fully completed and fully finished, all we all get is a SHOT at salvation, what did people have before His work was finished? Obviously, people in the OT were saved, so they, too, had a shot. What changed, if anything, after Jesus said "It is finished"? You seem to be saying that Jesus really didn't finish anything at all, Jesus only handed the baton over to man and said "you finish it".

3,386 posted on 03/09/2006 12:01:26 AM PST by Forest Keeper
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To: Forest Keeper
You seem to be saying that Jesus really didn't finish anything at all, Jesus only handed the baton over to man and said "you finish it"

You totally misunderstood me, FK. I am not sure if you know what Divine Economy is. Anyway, the Old Covenant was finished and a way was made for the New Covenant to begin. The work Christ came to do was finished. Salvation now became possible for all mankind, past, present and future.

3,388 posted on 03/09/2006 3:31:14 AM PST by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Forest Keeper; kosta50; jo kus; HarleyD

"So, if after God's redemptive work is fully accomplished and fully completed and fully finished, all we all get is a SHOT at salvation, what did people have before His work was finished?

That's right, a shot at it, the same thing Adam and Eve had. The OT saints, except in a couple of instances, went to "the place of the dead" or hades upon their deaths. This is why the icon the of the Resurrection shows Christ releasing the OT righteous dead upon his Resurrection.

What changed is that by the Incarnation, we were restored to the possibility of fulfilling our created purpose lost at the Fall.


3,392 posted on 03/09/2006 4:11:52 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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